Why the Plaid-Labour deal makes sense for both parties as Welsh devolution circles the wagons

The vote Vote Labour Get Plaid comment is from Tory S Pembs MS Kurts (?) He failed to add "Vote Tory get Sleaze" of course

75% of the last Senedd election vote went to left wing parties. This is what people in Wales want and this is democracy in action. No doubt self proclaimed victimhood will be vomited out by the plastic Welsh tories, but this is what Wales voted for. Progression, more powers, more public ownership and more representation in our democracy.

With a xenophobic british nationalist govt at westminster doing all it can to stymie the devolved parliaments in Scotland and Wales this deal is in Wales' best interests at this time. In plaid cymru we unashamedly put Wales' best interests before party interests

Obviously I'd prefer a majority Plaid government, but this is a good stepping stone. What many are reticent about saying is that this isn't the end of a process. It's the next step on a journey that will inevitably lead to full independence for Cymru, whatever the Unionists want. Devolution in Cymru has worked - to a very limited extent. Obviously we are still restricted by the devolved powers and our inability to decide our total budget. People in Cymru have seen this. Every indication is that they want MORE devolution, not less, even if they aren't completely pro-Indy yet. And every time we get more devolution, it highlights the fundamental weaknesses and failings in the system which stop us addressing problems in non-devolved areas. And we demand still more devolution and on creating a separate and appropriate view and policies for Cymru. And, as I said, that can only lead to one destination: Cymru Rydd - it may be in 5 years, it may be 25 years (I hope the former) but it WILL happen.

Make no mistake. Plaid has bet its future on this deal. If it fails, then they will go the way of the LibDems -- because they can no longer pose as a credible opposition (in the sense of an alternative goverment). But Welsh Labour have a lot to gain from this arrangement. It potentially extends their reach (and mandate, through this combination) much further into the North and West. The combination could genuinely claim healthy roots throughout our country, and not just Glamorgan-Gwent. My view is that it will fail unless it results in (1) severance of Welsh Labour's constitutional links with Keir Starmer's party over the border, and (2) in due course, a full merger.

Look’s like grown up politics to me.Let’s face it none of that coming from westminster. I really hope this means labour moving towards a more nationalist stance,the people of wales would love them even more than they do now.

The Conservative party is a corruptive force that wants to destroy Wales & Welsh devolution. And Although not a Labour voter myself, in this case support any Welsh Labour/ Plaid cooperation, as it would be a dereliction of duty for both not to protect our national interests by putting ideologies aside seeing the hostility and contempt shown towards Wales Senedd Cymru by Boris Johnson's fascist idiocracy in London. And with that know all too well how the Welsh Conservatives are proactive in the undermining of Welsh devolution. They have never accepted the democratic will of the Welsh people when we voted for devolved government, and although by a small majority since then support for devolution had rocketed, and they don't like it one iota! And ever since the first Senedd election in 1999, the Tories have been getting increasingly resentful towards devolution because whatever they do cannot get control of Wales as they use to when we were directly ruled from London. Also, the Welsh people have experienced the positives of devolution, not the negatives they prefer, especially during the Covid pandemic which has cemented devolution in the minds of the nation, and the Tories also fear the rise in support for Welsh independence. So we now find both Tory leader Andrew RT Davies, Darren Miller and the Welsh Conservatives in the Senedd in conjunction with WS Simon Hart have become effectively Whitehall collaborators who plot & scheme the downfall of our Senedd on behalf of their far-right anti-,devolution masters in London hence their support of their "taking back control" agenda by any means available. So with this in mind, must unite and fight. Welsh democracy and Wales itself is under threat. #YesCymru 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 #Ymlaen 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 #ConservativeAgenda 🇬🇧☢️

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What will the UK government do next, I wonder? It's strong arm tactics are achieving the opposite (supposedly! ) of what it wants.Judging by today's announcement, though, regarding improving rail links between Wales and Scotland,without cooperation with repective governments, means I suspect it will just be business as usual for the clueless Tories. The trouble is they've had so long with getting their own way and bullying both countries - they think they can just continue with it. Times have changed - no longer will Wales and Scotland be pushed around. The alliance between Plaid and Labour is just one aspect of that.

This is great for Welsh democracy. Now please let's have a Plaid / Labour alliance at the next Westminster election (i.e. agreement to only run one candidate in the Tory seats e.g. Plaid could run in Ynys Mon, Aberconwy, Labour could run in Vale of Glamorgan, Monmouth etc.) and let's rid Wales of all Tory MPs.

It's "boi bach", and he runs a Welsh news site, and this is Welsh news. Nice try with the fictitious anti-semitic and islamophobe angle, though.

Momentum supporter and a Welsh Nationalist leading the country...... Who would have thought it !