What next for the record-breaking Senedd petition opposing Wales' 20 mph default speed limit?

Dismissal. Laughter. Derisions. Scepticism of the origin of signees. Fading into history, an artefact of backwards looking Tories and their wedge issue lies. A testament to self interest, gullibility and resistance to positive progress

Were those names in Wales on the electoral register in Wales?

I have a particular account that used to give me 11 emails. I am sure there are many other ways, exclude the duplicates, how many Mr Drakeford etc. IP dresses match, would be interesting to see how many signed singular. The way this took off, really does smell of manipulation and I fully expect the usual suspect Cons backers to have had a go at this. Press included. Now if Mr Davies is hanging his hat on a poll that could have been manipulated then Indy Wales next.

Here's what will happen. There will be a debate relating to this petition; the Welsh Government along with local councils will by then be adding many more exemptions to the 20mph roads; the law will not be repealed and many on the British nationalist right/far-right in Wales (who remember have never accepted the will of the people via the referendums that set up the Senedd and through their words see all Senedd elections as illegitimate) will then say ha ha we don't have any democracy so now the Senedd must be abolished (having never thought it should have existed in the first place).

In order to sign a petition you have to enter a postcode. It's not so much the email addresses that need to be checked but the distribution of postcodes. This would identify if there are any odd clusters or non residential locations.

Why?

This petition means very little if those signatories signing are from outside of Wales. Would they have the same reaction if the Tories did similar in England? Simple answer. No. And if not, why not? Are those signing not able to think for themselves is the question that needs answering. But I ask this question. Where was the outrage when the English Tory government made that white elephant HS2 an "England and Wales" infrastructure build robbing of billions where both Scotland & Northern Ireland will receive consequential over its lifetime. Where were you? (A tumbleweed bounces by, the silence is deafening). And where were the alleged 400k signatories, allegedly from Wales when those like me signed a petition calling for the devolution of the Crown Estate seeing the only ones to benefit was the then Prince Charles and English Treasury that again robs Wales billions that could go to help those neglected & impoverished valley communities. Yet again you nail biting reactionists were nowhere to be seen or heard? Why is it that those hostile to the 20m0h speed limit are only proactive when they are told to be by the English media. They seem incapable of thinking for themselves unless the red top Tory print & TV pull their puppet strings via the Sun, Daily Mail, Telegraph & Express and by those on scumbags on GB News. Similar tactics were used when voters in Wales were fooled into self-harming with Brexit. Leaving Europe has been an economic and democratic disaster for Wales, but hey, scrapping the 20mph default speed in built-up areas saving lives back to 30mph is way more important to those busy going nowhere wanting to travel a teeny weeny bit faster. I see those type of people daily. They speed until they reach a speed camera, then slow down, before speeding off again. Well done, I say sarcastically. You got to the lights before the cyclist. It's worrying when those likely hostile to this policy get their news largely from social media and information from the Welsh Tories, who whipped them frenzy because captain cardboard Andrew RT Davies along with Tory central office tells you that your liberty & freedom to speed is under threat because that extra 10 mph means so much to you. Yeah, tell that to the family of the dead child hit at 30mph that your liberty means more. Could be you family member one day. I myself know this all too well having two sisters nearly killed crossing the road in the 1980s. They were lucky to survive, others are not so fortunate.

Here we are on the day that Sunak tells us this will never happen in England. Reaching out no doubt to all the potential Tory voters in Cymru who will then disregard the fact that, at its inception, the 20 rule was welcomed and promoted by the Welsh tories. Allegedly 1 in 6 people in Wales have signed the petition. How about changing the focus here to…,,no police, no social services, broken NHS, broken courts system, local authorities not doing their jobs, crap roads, a country bullied and ignored from a power base in another state. No? It’s another example of Tory poo stirring where truths are hidden and distorted.

I am shocked to see that Rupert the bear has signed this petition. A speed limit of 20 mph is good for wildlife, giving them the chance to escape while also giving drivers time to react. Shame on you Rupert. And the English press and the right wing take this petition seriously.

Why not ask any decent question? Example : Demand another election for or against the dismissal of the Senedd / WG. Voters to be listed on the ER.

So, the Welsh government allows people from outside Wales to petition the assembly on an issue it backs and then claims foul play when the same outsiders petition against the assemblies newly made law? Didn't see that coming. Next, it'll be moronic accusations of the Russians being involved.

Scrap petitions, they are counter productive, the ballot box is democracy.

Definitely an unpopular opinion here that has seen my comments deleted but here goes for the hard of hearing - 500,000+ PEOPLE ARE NOT ALL TORY STOOGES. STOP INSULTING THEM. ACCEPT THAT THERE IS LEGITIMATE CRITICISM OF THIS NEW LAW. In fairness, Alwyn Evans has nailed it with his comment above. Yes, LA's need to make sure that arterial routes are kept flowing - the WG need to show leadership and make this happen. There are a bunch of reasons why WG should take the views of the Welsh electorate seriously on this - it brings into doubt that this specific law has popular support which in turn calls into question whether or not the law will be respected and policed correctly. Secondly, it is also a matter of the reputation of the Senedd and the Welsh Government. Very few people question the limit in residential side streets or around schools etc - what people are frustrated about is getting to work, childcare, care visits, deliveries, home and so on in time. Do the right thing WG and make sure LA's apply for the exemptions where needed.

When where We THE PEOPLE were asked????

Roads are for cars, pavements are for pedestrians. When pedestrians are crossing roads and not on a zebra crossing. The pedestrians need to look up from their phones and iPads and check for traffic both ways. The responsibility is not with the driver but with the pedestrian while crossing. Stop this nonsense.

What a fuss about very little. It seems to be almost mass hysteria. Most roads are still the same so why the huge fuss? Obviously there will be teething problems and some will change but I've not noticed much difference at all as I'vetravelled around. Why do so many think speed is exceptable. After so many crashes outside and into my home I'm delighted they have to slow down now.