Scientists have concluded the Welsh language is safe - but if anything kills it, it will be complacency

Find this difficult to believe and hopelessly optimistic. Only 7% of children enter school at 5yrs old fluent in Welsh . The figures for the "heartland" counties of Ynys Môn, Ceredigion and Carms. are 37%, 26% and 22% respectively. Only Gwynedd now has a majority of children from Welsh-speaking homes and in the major urhan centre of Bangor they are in the minority (24%) Languages survive primarily by transfer from one generation to another within the home. This is not happening. The education system can only do so much.

I'm glad someone have shown some scepticim about making such a bold extrapolation from such limited data. But that is not this models biggest failing. Its biggest failing is that it takes no account of the rapid pace of change of communication technology and the development of translation apps

The Cymry spoke the foreign tongue, to rise in rank, and since the same song sung, so the nation sank... Paint an Owl on your house if you True Do wish the only Welsh Revolution. Gwrthryfel Gwdihŵ, The Cymraeg Restoration. Find brothers, sisters of feather, And an arwyrain sing in Eglwyseg, To Caradog our spiritual father, This revolution and no other.

So you are saying the language is safe but carry on with the fanatical protesting anyway?

These models are incredibly sensitive and are based on known data points. As an example, labour lose control of education in Wales, model is then irrelevant. Parents decide they prefer Englosh medium education, massive change in model.

The number of Cymraeg speakers will go up, but the percentage may only rise slowly, depending on the rate of demographic change and the ability of a future Welsh Government to make that change manageable. Assuming that demographic change is brought under Welsh control, and bearing in mind that we're talking about three hundred years in the future, 74% is a plausible percentage. It will all depend on the status of Wales in relation to what is currently the UK. Another potential positive is that the language is unlikely to become moribund again, so inter-generational transfer of Welsh between parents and children will increase outside the Bro Gymraeg on a reasonable scale for the first time since the beginning of the 20th Century. This will be supplemented by education either in or through the language in schools. Even so, we should all bear Gareth's counsel in mind; even an independent Welsh-speaking state will still be dominated, or at least strongly affected by, English-language mass popular culture for many years to come.

Does dim tystiolaeth ffeithiol i awgrymu bod y Gymraeg am goroesi. At hyn o bryd mae'r holl batrymau ieithyddol megis, allfudo o Gymru, mewn fudo gan bobl na siaredir y Gymraeg, y nifer o blan (a chanran) sy'n derbyn ADDYSG Gymraeg a marwolaeth yr henoed yn y 'Fro Gymraeg' yn awgrymu'n gryf y bydd yr iath wedi marw o'n haelwydydd o fewn 100 mlynedd.........efallallai y bydd yr Eisteddfod yn parhau gyda hanewyr yn ymddiddori yn yr iaith ond yn sicr ni fydd y Gymraeg yn iaith fyw!

It's forced in the classrooms up and down Wales with millions spent on it. It whats also known as communism.

These academics should get out a bit more often. A day spent wandering around the communities of Gwynedd and Ynys Mon that have experienced rapid linguistic change over the past ten years would convince even the most blinkered optimist that Welsh will not be a majority language in ANY community at all by the 2031 Census. The writing has been on the wall for decades but now the anglicisation of communities is happening at an accelerated pace - helped by the massive over provision of new social and other housing, the migration of thousands of young Welsh speakers to Cardiff and the indifference, lack of joined up thinking and downright hostility towards Cymraeg from the Labour "Welsh Government". Once the next Census results are out in 2022/3 the BBC commentariat and usual talking heads will froth at the mouth for a few weeks and then everyone settles down and comforts themselves that the Cardiff bubble will save the language - even without being sustained by the, soon to be dried up, well of Welsh speakers from the North and West. It won't happen. Nothing practical has ever been done to protect the language in its strongest areas and, given the political pygmies running Wales, nothing will ever be done. So the only discussion that needs to be had now is the one which asks how does a language without a geographic territory retain any practical relevance ?

I live in a supposed high Welsh speaking area Ynys Mon. Out of all the people I know that were born here, only 2 speak Welsh. I have 2 kids that have attended primary secondary and now collage in Wales. There is shocking evidence that the Welsh language statistics are being manipulated. When you consider that my children have been forced to take Welsh lessons every week for over 11 years and can not speak more than a few basic sentences in Welsh. They come home with exam results that they consider a joke as not only can they not speak Welsh, they refuse to and resent Welsh lessons. They are not alone as all their friends feel exactly the same and treat the Welsh lesson as a joke. The fact that they will get a C pass for a subject that they do no more than write their name on a paper is unacceptable and indicates a policy that shows a devious small minority of people in government blatantly lie and cheats. When the vast majority of the Welsh population does not want to speak Welsh yet have it forced on them at great cost to the taxpayers who need the diminishing much needed funds on vital services that could be said in some cases save lives. When millions of ££ are spent on teaching Welsh in school that is obviously failing and false exam results are use to in statistics to bolster the numbers that are fictitious is totally unacceptable. It must stop. My son who is studying aeronautical engineering sees that speaking Welsh is of zero use to him and was a distraction having Welsh lessons that was just a wild out of control class, where the teacher just gave up for several hours a week for all his school life. They even tried when he enrol at college stating he also had to study Welsh bacc another Welsh government made up subject, saying it was a government policy that all had to take the subject. In fact the opposite is true. After a vote with every student in his year they all voted not to take what they know is a pointless subject. It is also a fact that the person who was the lecturer in this subject lied to the students. It is not compulsory, and neither should the Welsh language be. It is said that 538,000 speak Welsh, it is an out and out lie, as you can see from what I have described above the evidence is the Welsh government deliberately manipulate the statistics and must know full well, from feed back from the teachers, that is the vast majority of kids do not want it. If people want it then they should start at home, if those kids want to study in Welsh then they should have the choice. The numbers would be so small that it would take only one Welsh teacher to cover several schools saving an absolute fortune. I must ad that my daughter moved to another school in Cardiff for 2 years, she told me that it was just as much a joke lesson there with even more kids that just treated the lesson as a joke. She even got C pass in her mocks there indicating that it is a national government policy to give false grades. This could mean the Welsh government is about as trustworthy as PUTIN.