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Opinion

Racist or Idiot?

By Mark Mansfield
Reform UK leader Nigel Farage, speaking during the Reform UK Wiltshire conference - Photo Ben Birchall/PA Wire

Ben Wildsmith

Given the many threats, legal and otherwise, being directed at Nation.Cymru by far-right loons and Reform UK types, I’m not sure how wise it is to call Nigel Farage a racist.

I mean, granted, people who know him claim that virulent racism has been his defining characteristic
since childhood, but it would be rash simply to take the word of dozens of his acquaintances
over the man himself.

So, I’m not saying that either Nigel, or his mouth-breathing acolytes in Wales, are big old racists. Not in the current climate. That would be irresponsible.

Once one subtracts racism from the Faragiste offering, however, what’s left is threadbare and
difficult to understand. This week, the part-time gold salesman, part-time TV presenter, and sometime MP for Clacton on Sea took aim at Glasgow’s schoolchildren. Noting that a third of Glasgow’s children didn’t learn English as their first language, Farage railed against the ‘cultural smashing’ of Glasgow.

There’s sooooo much to unpack here, isn’t there? Firstly, it’s a bit rich claiming that anywhere outside of England is being ‘smashed’, culturally or otherwise, because people learned a language other than English first.

The presence of English in Scotland and elsewhere around the globe derives from a cultural smashing enterprise unparalleled in history.

‘We gave them the English language!’

Well, my Auntie Floss used to give me an Airfix kit every Christmas, but I don’t recall her breaking in heavily armed, demanding that I play with it and forbidding me to have any other toys.

So, we can agree, I hope, that English is pretty secure as a means of communication on this island, as well as many other areas of the world.

Glaswegian kids haven’t instituted their own ‘English Not’ in the classrooms of that city, so what is Farage’s actual problem?

Well, it’s not that the children can’t or won’t speak English. The Scottish Government’s figures relate to pupils studying English as an additional language, so, by definition, these kids are speaking English. The objection seems to be that it isn’t their mother tongue.

Engaging

Now, think about that for a moment. If Farage is saying that learning English – i.e. actively engaging with the host culture and trying to conform to it – is irrelevant to his notion of who belongs here, then what are his qualifiers?

I’m old enough to remember when Farage was insisting that Brexit wasn’t a racist enterprise because it would open the door to immigration from Commonwealth countries. Now that European exclusion is safely in the bag, it seems that the goalposts have moved.

This argument is all the more astonishing when viewed through a Welsh lens. Imagine bursting into a classroom full of Welsh-learners and accusing them of culturally smashing Wales because they hadn’t learned the language before moving here.

Bullying people who are demonstratively doing their best to fit in is as counterproductive as it is contemptible.

Counterproductive

It’s only counterproductive, however, if your aim is to produce harmony. If your product is division, resentment, and anger, then suggesting that people can do nothing to advance their prospects of being accepted in a country you propose to run is, of course, extremely effective.

But that would be to suggest that Farage and the rest of them are racist, and we mustn’t do that, they might get upset.

So, if we accept that racial division and conflict is the last thing that Farage wants across Britain then there is only one other explanation for this outburst.

If he’s not a racist, he’s an idiot. Take your pick.

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28 comments

Fanny Hill

Racist Idiot?

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Fanny Hill

On second thoughts, Dickie Tice also fits the bill with knobs on.

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philip

I thought he was both

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David Richards

He's a 'dog whistling' idiot....and a evil one at that!

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J Jones

Obviously a racist, but is he an idiot when he's persuaded so many to join him? We can throw insults, but we need to focus on exposing him for what he is and how dangerous he can become unless we keep him and his criminals out of this country.

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Richard Jenkins

I’m not sure he’s an actual idiot just because he believes stupid things? However, is he racist? No question, of course he is.

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Readthesmallprint

You can be an idiot in some things whilst highly skilled in others. He’s a highly skilled political campaigner on some fields of battle

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Andy w

The way to deal with a racism is to do more things they dislike. Wales has supported Ukraine through the excellent sanctuary of nations initiative. Can this website interview some of the individuals who have benefited from moving to Wales? Also an interview with individuals who travelled to the UK on small boats two years ago and have settled / integrated into society. I have briefly watched Mogg on GB News - outside accomodation housing asylum seekers. Mogg has no shame and is focused on making the issue worse for residents nearby the accomodation.

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Mike T

I guess the problem is that for any positive story you have a Rhiannon Whyte that shows the system is utterly broken.

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Egon

Broken by Farage because that killer arrived on one of his Brexit boats.

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Mike T

Nah, you can't make that connection. Silly. They started using boats as we'd tightened the ports to stop them coming in in the back of lorries.

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Egon

So why did asylum claims jump by a similar number? There should be no difference if the only thing that changed was the mode of transport.

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Jeff

Both can be true. Both are true. At this point everyone must know what the party is. Support farage knowing this, you are what the leader is.

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Clive hopper

Is Farage capable of talking about any issues without bringing race into it?

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Amir

He needs to make it clear, if he didn't do such despicable acts of racism in the past, he needs to condemn such actions. If he did, which seems more likely as he keeps saying it was just banter, then he needs to apologise and resign.

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Mab Meirion

Has the Senedd made representation to Twmp Town in solidarity with Cardiff's Somali community...? Garbage=Twmp, Miller, Vance and Hegseth...

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Jeff

Too late now. The ship has sailed. Trump is watching his useful idiot in the UK. Time the BBC go in hard on him instead of fluffing for him. BBC Wales did, needs to be national.

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Readthesmallprint

When the Anglo-Saxons first turned up, Glasgow was part of the Kingdom of Strathclyde, whose people considered themselves the same people as those of Wales and who spoke what the AS’s called Welsh, or sometimes “the British language” (which still meant “Welsh“ until at least C17). Strathclyde was smashed, from the C11, by the various efforts of Anglo Normans from the south, and a Gaelic-speaking (because Irish-invaded) kingdom to the north. William Wallace by the way means William the Welshman. Robert Bruce’s family was Norman. Ancient history of course. One of those bits of history usually selectively scrubbed out, along with the Kingdom of Dalriada and the rest of the story of Yr Hen Ogledd. Still, a reminder to those interested that history rarely conforms to the simple narratives that Farage and friends would prefer

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Valley Girl

For sure a plonker.

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Ben Wildsmith

What's illegal about schoolkids in Glasgow?

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Mike T

Think you need to explain that one.

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Y Cymro

Populist millionaires Nigel Farage like those who are adapt at attacking like flies to the proverbial those like-minded racists and bigots also favour grooming technics used by American evangelical Christian pastors that promise the poor, disabled and apathetic salvation for a price, in Farage's case, political support. Populists like those at the top of pyramid schemes are usually the main beneficiaries. They always financially benefit where the ones at the bottom suffer and take the hit. Farage like a devil on your shoulder says what you want hear. He whispers and schemes, offers you a land of milk and honey, if you demonise those he seems the cause of all our ills. Muslims , asylum seekers, ethnic minorities, not any policies or decisions made by central government that has had an adverse affect on our lives such as Brexit which he Farage championed. Sadly Nigel Farage like a slippery eel got away with all the lies and false promises made. Unfortunately electorate have short memories. Brexit was a huge failure and Wales suffered not only financially , economically and culturally, but democratically too. And if the polls are correct. Reform will gain seats next May, cause chaos , nothing will change, Wales will suffer and Farage like Fagan in the end sequence of Oliver will click his heels and march off into the sunset with a bag of money leaving us to pick up the pieces. But this isn't written in stone. You can stop Reform in its tracks. Use Caerphilly as an example. Vote smart. It can be certain. Reform UK like the Brexit Party & UKip before will eventually fall apart when the proverbial hits the fan. Being a critic is one thing, governing another. Reform is a one man band with no policies other than hate. They are far-right Conservatives at heart and will come after those apathetic voters in poor deprived working class valley communities they groomed. And when Farage finally scampers like a rat from the sinking ship to America or settles in tax haven Dubai with fellow fascist Richard Tice, Reform's membership will hemorrhage, those cult members will either go back to voting for Labour, Conservatives , or seek similar extremist parties with outlandish views.

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Jeff

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/dec/05/holocaust-survivors-call-on-nigel-farage-to-apologise-over-alleged-antisemitic-comments

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Mike T

Good point. Plenty of idiocy around to say the least.

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James Edwards

Farage is a racist and a loser. The people of Caerphilly saw to that.

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Anonymous

Ben Wildsmith asked me: "What's illegal about schoolkids in Glasgow?" My response: "Absolutely nothing, and you missed the point of my post".

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Mike T

Yeah, I did ask him to explain that one as not sure of the point that was being made.

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Smae

To answer the headline's question: Yes.

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