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Legitimate Concerns

By Mark Mansfield
Protesters holding signs and England and Union Jack flags. Photo Danny Lawson/PA Wire

Ben Wildsmith

In February, it will be ten years since David Cameron announced the Brexit referendum.

In a world that was yet to see a Trump presidency, the UK was, it turned out, an early indicator of how world politics was changing.

The chaotic sequence of events that have engulfed us since then make it difficult to remember how different attitudes were at a time that seems simultaneously like yesterday and a lifetime ago.

From the instant the referendum was called, it seemed that the fragile accommodation of beliefs that made our democracy viable started to tear apart. The tone of political debate became harsher and more confrontational as the binary nature of the referendum seemed to settle over all of national life.

You were one of us or one of them whether you liked it or not. Tribal intransigence that had characterised the broken politics of Northern Ireland for so long became normalised across the nations of the UK.

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Inadequacy

When the Labour MP Jo Cox was murdered in broad daylight by a right-wing extremist who shouted, ‘Britain First!’ as he attacked her, the referendum campaign was briefly paused. Our politicians revealed their inadequacy for the times as they mouthed platitudes in her honour, before leading us all back into the foaming torrents that had led us to that shameful day.

If ever a point of inflection presented itself it was then, but we lacked anyone with the talent to articulate it.

In the new politics, data was for nerds; losers who lacked the guts to feel a national moment. Every painstaking argument about loss of trade and increased bureaucracy could be swept away with a single word that nobody was able to define: ‘sovereignty’.

For men and women of urgency, the bean-counting didn’t matter. The stuff of nationhood lay not in the prosperity of communities, rather, it flowed in the blood. Spreadsheets and forecasts would wither before the roar of the lion, just you wait…

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Bigotry

Somewhere in the kaleidoscopic weirdness of those days, accusing somebody of bigotry became more taboo than being bigoted. ‘Legitimate concerns about immigration’ took on the clothes of religious belief. If somebody expressed them, however aggressively, it was their right to do so. To accuse somebody of cloaking racism in this way was to marginalise them for their beliefs. How dare you?

If nobody seemed quite sure what sovereignty was back then, we got the message loud and clear this week. The avuncular tones of good old Uncle Nigel, the bloke down the pub who just wanted a fag, a pint, and the odd racy joke, were replaced with a solemn explanation of what this was really about from day one.

Explaining that a Reform UK government would deport 600 000 people, which is nearly 1% of the population, as many as live in Bristol or Glasgow, Farage laid out what we should be ready to sacrifice. Membership of the ECHR, as formulated by Churchill, would go, as would the 1998 Human Rights Bill. To be rid of these people, we should all be ready to lose our human rights and any mechanism for challenging how we are treated by the state. To be rid of migrant hotels, we should be ready to accept the construction of concentration camps on our soil. To expedite deportations, we should be willing to send our tax money directly to the Taliban as a bribe.

‘Legitimate concerns’

That is what was meant by ‘sovereignty’ and how broadly the scope of ‘legitimate concerns’ was drawn by those who exhorted us to leave the EU. That leaving it reduced the nation to penury, with IMF intervention now widely predicted, was not just irrelevant to this project, it was welcome. As the screw has turned on our standards of living, so humanity has escaped like steam under pressure from vulture capitalists whose interests all this has served.

In my view, Farage made his first serious mistake this week. There is a sizeable minority who support this undeliverable, and shameful plan, but it’s anathema to the majority in the centre, not because we’ve been brainwashed but because it is a moral outrage.

Members of the minority will show up, as they always do, with their laughing emojis, their sexual obsessions, and their transparent hatred – undoubtedly in the comments under this article. They can’t be persuaded, they never could. Now is the time to condemn, to shun, and to ostracise. If that seems harsh, particularly if you are related to them, well sorry, but decent people have legitimate concerns.

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39 comments

andy w

Reforms performance in English councils is now on display https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cger45p0lv0o with their handling of media organisations. The economic migration issue is being given too much media attention and is taking the focus away from governing the country. It's years before the next general election and i will be amazed if Reform last that long!

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Basil

9 months here. You have to wonder if London Labour aren't planning to use Wales to show England how bad a Reform government would be. Is there any other explanation for net zero rail funding, not devolving the crown estate and APD, etc.

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Pete 90

I have a horrible feeling you may have a point there.

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Andy

It really looks to me like they've decided to chuck it.

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Morry

Cardiff Labour's council had a policy of not putting any adds in the Western Mail because they had criticised it. The Senedd doesn't allow certain UK News Channels to be shown on its TV screens. If we are going to talk about censorship, how about we start at home?

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Dr Jonathan F Dean

Biggest surprise for me this week was Nige resurrecting the old mid 70’s policy of paying people to leave that the National Front had. No surprise he had it in mind but didn’t think he’d get to it so quickly Of course the 600,000 would just be the start as he’d find more reasons to add people to his deport list

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Jeff

He will forcibly round people up. US ice will be his model. I have no doubts how nasty he will get. His words and actions and people he interacts with precede him.

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Basil

And they haven't ruled out the mass deportation of Germanics back to Germania.

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Morry

You mean the policy that a number of liberal left wing democracies in the European Union have already adopted? Sweden, you know that really liberal and welcoming country, will be paying £27393.40 to migrants who leave from next year onwards. Denmark also pays 'resettlement' money to migrants who are willing to leave, in fact Denmark also takes any valuables of asylum seekers who come to the money so if they have nice rings, nice jewelry the Danes seize it and use the value of it to pay for their costs.

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Jeff

UK has worse protections than the US. He gets power and a majority that is usable, then if you are not white, not male, not heterosexual, be afraid. And he will not want to have any more elections and the press will be shut down unless you say nice things.

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Welsh_Siôn

... [T]he press will be shut down unless you say nice things. ____________________ It's already started. Witness Nottingham. Reform council’s Nottingham Post ban a ‘massive attack on local democracy’ | Reform UK | The Guardian

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Jeff

Yep. saw that. It will be trump model. One of the new Whitehouse press corp is the significant other of Marjory Taylor Green(off the scale nuts). He is a far right, perfect fit I suppose. He will never confront Trump. He attacked Zelenskyy for not wearing a suit. farage will do the same here, the press lobby in the UK will be gutted unless you say nice things about nige and attack people not white. Say anything agiant Nige, and he willset gis goons on you. Like trump does.

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Undecided

True; but other parties do it as well. For example, NC excluded from Welsh Labour conference.

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Jeff

Think you are missing the level to which this will go. As seen in the US.

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Felicity

A great piece of writing. What is worrying is how many of us can be duped by people who don't have our interests at heart. Vulture Capitalists!

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Basil

The problem with this is your approach insults the voters because they knew what they were voting for when they backed Nigel's Brexit which started the small boats and meant we needed to replace European migration with non-European migration to pay for the exploding health and pension costs of Boomers.

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Peter J

There appears no right answers. What ever he does it seems 2/3s or more of the country disapproves. Having been to Germany recently, I can't believe how much attitudes to migrants have changed in the space of 4 or 5 years. When you speak to quite normal centrists. They don't have a media with right wing bias. 'Legitimate concerns' is here to stay

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Pete 90

Germany has certainly started to take a more robust (and reasonable) approach. If Starmer does the same then Farage will melt away.

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Peter J

It's not making AfD fade away! Actually, I feel Starmer/Cooper were doing an OK job, tacking the many small problems created by the tories. If you looked at what they were doing, it was all sensible and balanced. But Starmer acting now as Farage -but with good admin skills - isn't appeasing the public on either side of the debate. Weird thing about Germany is if you go to the east like Sachsen-Anhalt, Brandenburg, you can't take a taxi ride without the driver complaining endlessly. Yet there aren't anywhere near the same numbers as, say Baden Wuerttemberg, where attitudes have been relatively open. But I felt on the last visit, opinions are changing there as well and more people opening criticising past Gvmt policy

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Undecided

I agree. There are “legitimate concerns” cloaked as racism as the article says; but it is difficult to argue that some concerns are not legitimate when young women are being sexually assaulted and abused. So, legitimate concerns are indeed here to stay - real or otherwise. Meanwhile, the government does itself no favours - this morning’s Times headline is “Hotel migrants’ rights outweigh those of locals” (says Home Secretary). Could have been written by the Reform press office and risks turning the minority - around 45% I believe - into a majority.

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Basil

Legitimate "legitimate concerns" have no time for double standards, and certainly wouldn't paint some offenders as "working class heroes".

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Undecided

I agree; but perception is reality for many many people - like it or not.

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Agnes Nutter

Has the term "legitimate concerns" EVER been used honestly? It's always a masquerade for revolting uninformed opinions

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Fanny Hill

I have legitimate concerns. I'm concerned about those right wing thugs protesting outside hotels. How many have criminal convictions for violence, crimes against women and children? Women should be able to walk the streets without fear. It's not the people in the hotels who are a threat, it's the morons outside that frighten me.

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Jeff

"Legitimate Concern" is an awful trope for the right. 40%+ form the arrested in the riots last year for domestic abuse. The record in the UK for bringing sexual assaults in all the horrendous forms to court is terrible, 5+ years for serious rape cases because the systems have been gutted by the Cons. Reported that most abuses are by people known to the victim, not people held in inhumane conditions. But farage is silent on these, he supports a man that is an adjudicated rapist and boasts sexually assaulting women (his own words), and many women are trying to get him to court for more assaults. farage touts Tate, call him an important voice for young men. Tate is a nasty bit or work in his own words and that is before we hear the trial he is up for terrible charges on women. farage backed a man that gave his girlfriend a kicking as an MP. And his recent deport them all will inflict death and harm on thousands of women and girls. They don't care. Its a phrase they can use to try to look good.

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Fanny Hill

“ Legitimate concerns”, leaves a bad taste when it’s appropriated by the far right, just as they’ve attempted to hijack the Welsh flag. I passed a local secondary school today and every lamppost and road sign was adorned with one at eye level. They’re now blatantly targeting school children.

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Jeff

What, trying to burn people to death in hotels vs holding up a Palestinian flag? Yep, didn't see it until you pointed it out.

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Felicity

Good point. It is becoming obvious that economic migration of mainly young men is a much bigger problem than genuine asylum seekers with families. Sadly, this may have to mean ID cards for everyone.

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Pete 90

Exactly

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Basil

Economic migrants aren't going to apply for asylum because they'll be refused and will have no legal basis to stay and work. Single men are often making the dangerous expensive journey to claim asylum then applying for family reunion to bring their family over.

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Felicity

Many have already applied for asylum in Europe and had their claim rejected, its just that we no longer have access to those records because of Brexit, so they are trying their luck here, and with a couple of years wait, its almost a done deal. Meanwhile Afghans fleeing the Taliban in actual fear of their lives are caught in the general upsurge of hostility against refugees.

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Tucker

Labour Far Left? Thanks for showing us your political intelligence 😂

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Jeff

It is removed from the estate because it pushes hate and misogyny, it promotes conspiracy and anti vax. They went after women with no push back from the hosts or station. It is not blocked in Wales, you can still watch it on devices and TV. It was removed by the Senedd. Funny how they spout off about Lineker when it suits them.

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Alison Payton

Great article, thank you. These things really need to be said. Leaving the EU has delivered very little that it promised, yet here's Farage again, trying to lie his way into plundeting state resources, and bankrupting the nation. His supporters, particularly the abusive, violent kind, need to be shamed and shunned. Sad but necessary, to save us from economic and social decline, not to mention moral bankruptcy.

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Jeff

Yes, useful idiots have a place. Be it on message or a piggy bank. Ask Ernst Röhm.

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Basil

Why would you vote for the party that caused the small boats crisis?

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Fanny Hill

Why then, would you vote for a party that wants to abolish the Online Safety Act which is designed to protect our children and a party which also selected a woman beater to stand as an MP?

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Adam

I lost five GCSE's just reading that. How on earth is a party that wants to remove women's rights by getting rid of the echr going to make things safer for women?? Ans secondly, please don't jump on the idiotic bandwagon of them pretending to give a flying f&%k about women's safety. Have a look at the rather large string of accusations and convictions of Niges gang, there's a reason why Reform are the party of wronguns. I would genuinely feel more unsafe having a reform supporter living near me, than an refugee.

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Adam

Only the one that should be.

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Yep. saw that. It will be trump model. One of the new Whitehouse press corp is the significant other of Marjory Taylor Green(off the scale nuts). He is a far right, perfect fit I suppose. He will never confront Trump. He attacked Zelenskyy...

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