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I’m going without food for a week to bring control over broadcasting to Wales

By NationCymru
Elfed Wyn Jones

Elfed Wyn Jones

Next week I’m going to be living without any food, and any drink apart from tap water, as part of a campaign to bring control over broadcasting to Wales.

According to the results of a YouGov survey last year, 65% of people in Wales support giving broadcasting powers to the Assembly while only 35% want politicians in Westminster to retain the power.

Democracy isn’t going to work in Wales if the people of the nation don’t know what is going on at their parliament, and if our elected representatives don’t know what the people want.

Unfortunately, because of a lack of media scrutiny of the Welsh Government and Assembly, we lack a public forum where this information can be shared and discussed.

Although the internet is now popular an awful lot of people still get their news from TV and radio, and news about Wales is largely invisible there.

For example, the NHS is a completely devolved matter to Wales, yet 50% of the people of Wales still believe it is run by the Westminster administration.

This is mainly because the news is framed in a UK context where there is little distinction between the UK and its largest constituent part, England.

Because of a lack of a Welsh perspective in the news, we have a lack of discussion of the problems facing Wales and, as a result, a lack of ambition when it comes to tackling those problems.

Wales has unique problems that are not shared by the rest of the UK, but at the moment we don’t represent a large or wealthy enough part of the UK so that these questions are tackled by London or Manchester-based journalists.

We as a county can't move towards our goals without voices that are critical of our Government, but that also explain to us how the system works, and note what is devolved - such as agriculture, health, and education - and the things that are not, such as the legal system.

Demonstration

The best example of Wales-focused broadcast journalism we have at the moment is S4C’s Newyddion 9. But since only 20% of the population speak Welsh the other 80% are left without such a much-needed service.

The devolution of broadcasting would also, however, create more opportunities for the Welsh language to flourish on out televisions and radio.

It is only through the kind of scrutiny that the devolution of broadcasting would bring that we could solve the problems that would allow us to build a better way of life for many of our disadvantaged people.

If you would like to support my campaign please write to your local AM and AS by letter so they’ll support this vital change for our Country.

On the 12:00 on the 27th of February there will be a small demonstration outside the Senedd to end the week of fasting and to show support for the debate in the Senedd, so please join us in support.

I hope that my action will show just how serious the need for Wales to have control over broadcasting is.

I accept my responsibility for taking the action – not in order to force the authorities or anyone else, but in order to encourage others to accept their responsibility.

The time has long come for our Assembly Members to accept their responsibility, and for us, the people of Wales, to accept responsibility for insisting that decisions about the media in Wales are made by the people of Wales.


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40 comments

Gwilym ab Ioan

That is an extremely noble gesture on your behalf Elfed, and I hope it draws attention to the blatant unfairness of the problem. Well done and thank you. However, I fear your ribs will protrude out of your skin before anything is done in the colonial environment we live in. The ONLY total and long term solution is absolute independence, and thereafter a government that is not run by any party that is a branch of a London based political group. We are being airbrushed out of existence on all fronts - including the machinations of the mainstream UK media. That will only cease when we stand on our own hind legs and do something about it before it's too late. It is the very reason we are forming our new party. Because as sure as God made little green apples, no other party has the backbone or the balls to change the situation - regardless of how well meaning they project themselves. Independence in the field of broadcasting is a central plank in what we are determined to achieve.

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ERNEST

Actually, It could be more effective if you try to get the attention of Afsrin Rattansi of 'Going Underground'. He may invite you in for interview on his RT.com program. You could also consider getting in contact with ex-SNP leader Alex Salmon, who has his own show on RT. They will then have to take notice !!

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Wrexhamian

But independence can only be achieved when the majority favour it, and while they are in ignorance of the true nature of Welsh politics, many will settle for winning the Six Nations. Wales needs control of its broadcasting first, so that issues relevant to Wales can be debated, before there can be a groundswell of public opinion against the status quo. So Welsh control of informed broadcasting is an essential first step, and therefore young Elfed's crash diet will not be a futile gesture but an important symbolic one, I feel.

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Gwilym ab Ioan

Fair comment Wrexhamian. Trapped in a classic 'Catch 22' clause situation then?

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jh1950

Good luck with the hunger strike, although I can't see that Westminster will give up its powers on broadcasting easily they want to keep control of information and have pretty well intimidated the BBC into a neutered puppy. I am in favour of total devolvement, and that means independence for Wales so that we can control our destiny (good or bad). But I certainly do not relish the notion of Welsh language broadcasts outside of S4C.

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Wrexhamian

Why not have new Welsh as well as English home-grown broadcasting, as long as it's about Wales and not more bread and circuses? What better way to help the rebirth and growth of the Welsh language? Those million speakers are going to need something grown-up to listen to instead of Strictly Come Baking, or whatever it's called.

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Fi

While I agree that broadcasting should be devolved, I think this is just grandstanding. I suppose it’s at least longer than Kinnock’s pitiful 24-hour ‘hunger strike’. I think it just shows a lack of respect for the sacrifices of revolutionaries, such as Pedro Luis Boitel and Potti Sreeramula, who died for what they believed in while fasting.

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Hedd

Have you ever tried going for a full week without anything but water? It is extremely serious and certainly isn't grandstanding. If you agree with the cause or not, show some respect.

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Brian ap Francis

Once again, the inferiority complex comes to the fore. What are BBC Wales, ITV Wales, S4C, Radio Wales, Radio Cymru for?

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gwilymabioan

True about the 'inferiority' complex coming to the surface - it's evident everywhere and is the the product of the 'Victor and Vanquished syndrome'. What are BBC Wales, ITV Wales, S4C, Radio Wales, Radio Cymru for? Simple - to be the propaganda puppets of the establishment based on the other side of Clawdd Offa. To promote the English Empire and to hide it's satellite nations out of sight. Ask yourself, how much have you heard today about what has gone on in Scotland, Cymru or Ireland? Or even mainland Europe (Brexit mania exempted). Then ask yourself how much you've heard about England's English speaking nephew a few thousand miles across the Atlantic today? It's not rocket science is it?

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Brian ap Francis

I have found the broadcasters fairly well balanced across the U.K. However I may be judging this under my criterion which is "It should be newsworthy in Wales if news of the same value is newsworthy anywhere else in the U.K."

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sianiflewog

Elfed Wyn Jones - da iawn chi!!! Hope it goes well, and that you don't 1) get too cold, and 2) yu don't spend all your time dreaming about food (i did something similar years ago). Just how the ff****Q do you/do i/do we make any impression on our democratically elected representatives . . . ? And our frustration and feelings of impotence are the mirror to our society. They don't give a Q . . . fF (excuse the language). We are allowed to vote, but nothing changes. Will someone please tell me what i have to do to get the bastards 1) to change and 2) to listen to us?!! I am a nobody, and have no power, nor influence, i do not count . . . Croeso i'r Cymru o heddiw

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Brian ap Francis

I don't excuse expletory bad language. If contributors use it, then it very much dilutes the message that they are trying to convey to the extent that it gives them little credibility.

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Gwilym ab Ioan

Ever come across the term freedom of speech of the individual Brian? Who are we to judge others based on the language they choose to express themselves through? It is none of my business and none of yours. It is the right of choice of the individual. I personally don't use expletive words that I think may cause others to feel uncomfortable. However whether others do that is entirely up to them. If I don't like those words then I have the freedom not to read them. Who actually wrote the rules and made them into law when it comes to what words we should or should not use? Is there a book written that contains such laws? Start telling people what they can or can't say or what words they can use and you're creeping into Orwell's "Thought police" territory. In fact I fear that we are already being softened up for that scenario at present.

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Brian ap Francis

Freedom of speech is one thing.Language like yours (although nowhere near the worst that I have witnessed) on these exchanges is quite another that most reasonable people would abhor. You aren't the only one though.

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Graham John Hathaway

The worn out cloths Rags and holes, The feelings of the empty, unstiched, Left in open fields Where only the cold wind blows, And the wooden gate lies closed. It's where we rest, on pillows of iron cast, The chains steadfast, Locking our rusted dreams. O sigh at our begging ways, Will they ever change, Never in Wales It's always been this way. But of our youth, Will we be forever young, And follow in the sun Of our golden days Yet to come.

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Carnabwth

It will give the campaign a little publicity I think so that would be good. Elfed, Are you going to give us an update regarding your petition?

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Mabon Tseina

Da iawn Elfed. Mae Abraham yn meddwl am ti o Dseina.

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sianiflewog

Well, here's one reason we need a non-british perspective media: i'm not really interested in sport, but have to listen to it on Rad 4 nuze).: Of course team Uk ar doing grate guns with their 2 brass medels: that's all you get off Rad 4 and raydeo d istablisment, so, one sianiflewog got another perspectives: nuze on yahoo.de: seems like team deutschland has got nine golds (bite yaw evil blakc heart out Ffarridge!!): and even Aboriginalia has got more than the English. Elfed - pob hwyl efo'r ymgyrch - we need an independent, objective and non-british empire vuew of the whirled - diolch

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Robert Williams

I think I can see, hear, sense an elephant lurking in this particular room. The question avoided amid all the sometimes expletory and usually inept rhetoric is: regardless of who owns/controls/finances them, how do we persuade the mass of Welsh residents to pay attention to media that feature Welsh affairs? If S4C, BBC Cymru & BBC Wales were devolved and, by some miracle, adequately funded from tomorrow, how could we persuade people in large numbers to tune to them rather than Radio 1, 2, and all the commercial music channels? How to divert mass attention from the S*n, D***y M**l etc. to the worthy if limited Western Mail - etc. etc?

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Brian ap Francis

The question to be addressed is "Is that what the media actually wants?" Where is the evidence?

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Wrexhamian

That's a very important question, Robert. But it seems based on the premise that the majority of Welsh people are mindless cattle. There are enough people in this country who want to know what's going on in this country, and the novelty value alone of an informed channel, in English if necessary, would be enough to capture an audience. The public wants what the public gets, as The Jam said. The Western Mail is part of the problem, by the way.

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Graham John Hathaway

Ye who controls the air waves controls the masses. Simple exploitation. By propaganda.

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Robert Williams

Thanks to Brian, Graham and Wrexhamian for their responses to my little rant. Brian, I’m afraid I didn’t understand yours. And Graham, I fear yours didn’t enlighten me much; do you advocate that we somehow forcibly take over the airwaves and use them for OUR propaganda, or are you just making a rather airy general observation? Wrexhamian, I don’t think I said anything implying that Welsh people are either mindless or cattle. But I’m very sceptical about how successful even the best-run Welsh-orientated media might be at attracting the attention of the great number of people in Wales whose eyes, ears and general attention and mind-set are turned eastwards. Nobody in his/her right mind would claim that the Western Mail was perfect. But there is plenty of attention to Welsh affairs, and some excellent journalism from the likes of Martin Shipton. And what’s the circulation? Around 20,000? If you really think it’s ‘part of the problem’, compare with DAILY Mail.

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Graham John Hathaway

There has been an unequal treatment of Welsh matters since the medieval times. The erosion of its language culture and identity. It's orchestrated subliminal messages of inferiority and dependency is alive and well. It's not just exploitation of resources, it's exploitation of who we are. Part of an unequal Union. A lower category of citizen who has 'lean to' tendencies and hangs in to old traditional values of obedience to the colonial rule. We will never have equal status if constantly fed this line where Westminster is best to decide outcomes of national interest. Where voice Wales is unrecognised. Where the press is London centric. When attacks on our health service, economy, standard of education, and weak governance at the Bay. When our democracy of self governance is rolled back even though our voice is for increased law making potential. A secretary of State for Wales fights for Bristol and the south West of England, and tell us it's the best for Wales. When the Media fixate over American politics, and Brexit, that dismisses the impact or influence of Welsh politics on critical issues of foreign and domestic politcs. When all, resources are directed to English infrastructure projects, and that sustain the economy of England. When the press is for the greater part proponents of right wing ideolgy and of global interests. When we have a controlled media in Wales, regulated by the major influence of British thinking and behaviour that is pro English, pro British, flag waving Brits, that dominate the news broadcasts, 24/7 and push the party line of the two major political parties that Britannia rules the waves. Please tell me that people here can make up their own minds from a Welsh view point of most things where Britain is constantly shown to be best and the dominant voice of the press and media. Those who control the air waves controls the masses. I hope this goes someways to exposing and explaining what I thought was common awareness of the psychology of learning and understanding. Give what the estsblishment believes is good for you to believe and do so unstintingly. Oh, it's called conditioning. I must say they do it rather well. Remember Pavlov's dogs.

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jh1950

I agree, Have you read the book Neighbours from Hell by Mike Parker? If not get a copy it is an unlikely page-turner but a page-turner it is and an excellent lesson in Anglo-Welsh history

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Graham John Hathaway

Thanks jh1950. I really could do with some humour and witty expressions, from it seems , a well thought of book. No I didn't know about it. Centuries of opprobrium. Um .' Something that's brings disgrace'. Sounds like a must read since the author Mike Parker, boastfully recounted of the the plethora of material available. I sure there is. It's published by y Lolfa. I have an account there from some recent purchases so I will contact tomorrow. Have a peaceful Sunday!

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sibrydionmawr

Western Mail worthy? I've heard it called a lot of things in my time, and I've certainly read it often enough in the past, but as John Jenkins once described it, it's "the paper that nobody wants, but everyone has to have" I guess he was referring to the Welsh context, and to a time when the Wasting Mule, or Daily Wail or Llais y Sais at least made some effort to present Welsh news. The Sun, the Daily Mail etc are clearly lobotomised, but the Western Mail is pretty much brain dead these days. One model that could be worth considering is that of Norway where the press receives state funding to ensure the free press so essential to a functioning democracy. However, as demonstrated a few years ago over the Y Byd fiasco, our Welsh Assembly is more concerned with financial defecits rather than those of a democratic nature, though I have to admit that I'd be sceptical of state funding for the Western Mail, so dire has it become, only outdone by the Daily Post which makes the South Wales Echo look like a heavyweight.

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Brian ap Francis

I am sorry that you don't understand. What I am trying to ask is that if there was a demand for Wales to be in charge of broadcasting in Wales, in the manner suggested, how is this known? What is the evidence to make such a claim? Who has been asked? Personally I am OK with the balance between Wales and the rest of the U.K.

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Gwilym ab Ioan

Oh dear, totally hypnotised by BritNat propaganda I fear. I suppose you also believe that the mystical country called Englandandwales also exists in reality? "There are none as blind as those who do not want to see" Brian. Try a bit of therapy on alternative news media outlets. Perhaps it'll ease the scales from your eyes, by realising that the UK mainstream media is not the reflection of reality that you perceive it to be. There's a phrase for it you know - COLONIAL PROPAGANDA. They feed it to the natives, instead of the natives getting exposed to reality within their own country.

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Brian ap Francis

That's rather disingenuous isn't it. I have been around for a large number of years and brainwashed is a term I attribute to dangerous extremists. I hope you aren't one. What exactly is it that you want media broadcasters to do? My Country is the U.K. and Wales, where I reside,is a is part of the U.K.and a great place to be. If you think that broadcasters don't do justice to Wales, say why,. What do you think is "reality?"

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Graham John Hathaway

That's reasonable for you to think the balance between Wales and the rest if the UK is fair, but others might not. The fight for the our own dedicated news channels ( S4C) has not been easy, and its funding continues to be so. The fight is for justice. That's another matter.

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Brian ap Francis

Don't you think that the resource afforded to S4C and for that matter Radio Cymru are proportional to the subscriber figures? Funds are limited to mainstream channels as well as Welsh only channels and these have to demonstrate a sense of proportion. And no I have nowt to do with the BBC.

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Graham John Hathaway

Again that's perfectly reasonable Brian to feel for a balance in use and value for money. I do use these channels frequently. There is a place for minority audiences. You have deliberately chosen S4C, although there is a bilingual service for most programmes. It's not exclusive. It's widely available. I guess there are other channels, programmes that don't attract great audiences. On television and radio. Come to think of it I greatly feel the considerable money paid out to maintain a second chamber through the House of Lords is unnecessary. I think this list can be endless. If everything was valued by the majority vote I sense much of the finer and artistic elements of life would be sacrificed to the major interests. A glance at the popular programmes will be revealing. Given the grants are centrally funded, it would be rule Britannia again. But I maintain your right to think and say it. It's a democracy of sorts. If you live in the greater part of the Union.

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Wrexhamian

No, Brian, you're right, of course; there has never been an instance of large numbers of people in any member-country of the UK demanding a new television or radio channel - except one: S4C, Do you remember those campaigns? Yes, of course, everybody does. Nor has there been a publicly-monitored demand for new TV channels elsewhere in the UK; we wake up, and suddenly they're there! There is, however, a demand for Wales to be in charge of broadcasting in Wales. I cite as evidence one individual among many - Elfed Wyn Jones (he of the hunger strike). But most people - and not just in Wales, of course - are not politically engaged over such matters, and never have been (you and I know the reasons for this, so I won't sport with your intelligence by alluding to them). I am racking my brain but cannot think of a single instance when large numbers of people have public stated, in survey or petition, their desire for any other kind of national change in broadcasting - except in Wales, as is the case with control of broadcasting. Think of the benefits, Brian! Not least, an informed Welsh news service that deals with issues directly affecting this country. Who could gainsay the benefits to the democratic polity of our benighted country that this would confer? The colonial apparatus of our little country scrutinised and challenged on a daily basis! A closer bond between North and South! A growth in awareness that this is a country, not a colony! I search in vain for anything in the British media that even makes a pretence of such a service. Join us, Brian boy, join us!

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apgras

Parch. I’d like to challenge anyone who strongly opposes S4C/Cymraeg etc etc, then if you feel strongly enough – please feel free to equal this young man’s principled stance. I am certain, there wouldn’t be anyone willing to do so. Julian *uck possibly.. Brian, can I just give you an example of how different the standard of journalism between S4C and BBC News Wales. During the referendum in Cataluyna, S4C provided some of the best journalism & current affairs programme of recent times. On S4C news you had live reporting, guest Catalan speakers who’d also learnt Cymraeg, ex pats who’d made Cataluyna their home and were married to natives – children spoke English, Cymraeg, Cataluyna & Spanish (all though of course Cymraeg speakers are insular and backwards). On the current affairs programme, Hacio, we visited a Welsh lady who’s husband’s family had been killed by Franco’s troops and had waited their whole lives for the day to arrive. On the other hand, the reporter visited businesses all over the region that were happy with the status quo and were going to vote No. Now let’s compare this to Jamie Owen’s World News Service. As events were unfolding in Cataluyna, we were treated to a main news headline of a woman’s unfortunate complaint letter to a local Council, which read ‘I turned on my cooker and my knob fell off!’ or something similar of great importance. Why couldn’t BBC Wales News find a Welsh angle to this significant story, and found an English speaking Welsh people with a personal story to events in Cataluyna? Why is it only for the main BBC News to provide English speaking Welsh people with a grown up and intelligent perspective of world events? This perpetuates the problem of English speaking Welsh people having no visibility, no representation – which is surely a complaint of the people ‘left behind’? On the rare occasion a BBC Wales News reporter gets to leave the Country is to cover Sport, shouldn’t we demand more than this? If you’re happy with having Welsh issues represented just 5% of the time on the ‘big news’, then there is no wonder we’re the poorest place this side of Poland.

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Robert Williams

Many thanks to Brian for explaining his contribution that I’d been too dim to understand. In the light of this, I think our views are not too far apart. For me the real question is, would devolution of power over and responsibility for media in Wales lead to people in Wales paying more attention to them, and thus to what is going on in their own country? I’d be delighted to think it would, but as in all fields we must be led by evidence.

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Davydh Trethewey (@MawKernewek)

Devolution of broadcasting powers hasn't been done in the UK before, so what evidence is there? Does anyone have any positive examples from elsewhere in the world? With BBC and ITV Wales, they are treated as branch offices of the British (English) Broadcasting Corporation or ITV and although lip service is paid to Wales being a nation, it is in actuality treated as a region on a par with East Anglia, or North East [of England] and Cumbria, rather than an actual country. Even Radio Cymru really feels more like it fits into the 'local radio' box rather than being a national broadcasting service. S4C has now been made financially dependent on the BBC, and the news output has always been done by the BBC (did they maybe not trust an independent Welsh broadcaster to remain 'on-message' at appropriate times?). Even if the BBC were replaced in Wales with an independent broadcaster, this doesn't guarantee an editorial policy more focused on the people of Wales, since they could still be a similar set of self-referential media types that are bound by herd mentality amongst their peers, rather than being guided by the people outside their bubble. Is it better to keep focusing on building up grassroots independent media like nation.cymru and other websites rather than fighting a 20th century battle over mass broadcasting that is already out of date?

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Graham John Hathaway

There is always life by association. It begins from early years. Rhymes, stories, pictures, news, language, friends, family, and those places you visit. It's like pieces of a jigsaw of building blocks that ferment as the years advance. It's the idea of creation. Creation of self. Yet at the very time you build through association of norms that surround you must ensure you 'fit' into what this micro society seeks to protray and reflect. The plummy English tones of the BBC will resonate with me for ever. The dress, speak, styles, TV soaps, entertainment, the list is endless. All pushing the culture of the great British ways of life. But not ours. Not enough anyway. The greatest of these influences on life and thoughts is the sort of media you choose to engage with: Broadcasting, publishing, Internet. (social media). It's like the constant waterfall of Britishness spewed out and touching every part of our consciousness. Our DNA is all but determined from the cradle. Let's associate with London as the centre of our universe. Our true leader. The voice of the culture who shapes and brings daily volume of life stories, but not ours. Our entertainment, yet a clever reinforcing of stereotyping written by whom and for what audience. Even those of Welsh distinction are overwhelmed to behave in the main media pose. When you sit for one moment in the quiet of your mind you begin to realise you are not Welsh after all You cannot over estimste the biggest cause of human conditioning. I think we know. The cause of our Nationhood is diluted and manipulated, by the very thing we tune into every day.

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Glenn Swingler

very very well done. Devolution of media is most definitely one of the most important issues affecting Wales today. very proud of you.

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I have found the broadcasters fairly well balanced across the U.K. However I may be judging this under my criterion which is "It should be newsworthy in Wales if news of the same value is newsworthy anywhere else in the U.K."

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