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Welsh Labour MPs slammed after voting down amendment to devolve Crown Estate to Wales

By Mark Mansfield
Plaid Cymru Energy spokesperson, Llinos Medi - Image: Plaid Cymru

Welsh Labour MPs have been accused of putting ‘party before country’ after voting down an amendment to the Crown Estate Bill which would have brought Welsh powers over natural resources in line with Scotland.

This is in direct contradiction to Welsh Labour Government policy.

The amendment, tabled by Plaid Cymru’s Energy spokesperson, Llinos Medi MP, called on the UK Treasury to transfer the management of the Crown Estate to the Welsh Government within two years after the commencement of the Act.

Currently any profits generated from the Crown Estate’s assets in Wales, valued at £853 million in 2023, flow directly to the UK Treasury rather than staying in Wales to be reinvested in Welsh communities.

In 2024 alone, Scotland’s Crown Estate generated record profits of £113.2 million which were reinvested by the Scottish Government into Scottish communities.

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Benefits

Treasury minister James Murray said the Crown Estate Bill will ensure the creation of “long-term prosperity for the nation”, before MPs passed the legislation at third reading.

Plaid Cymru’s Westminster leader Liz Saville Roberts said the UK Government believes Wales is “too small and too poor”.

Mr Murray responded by suggesting there is greater benefit to Wales in retaining the Crown Estate’s current form and devolving it would “further fragment the UK energy market”.

The Crown Estate is an independent company that belongs to the monarch for the duration of their reign. The value of its land and assets is an estimated £15.5 billion.

The revenue from its property portfolio flows directly to the Treasury, but 25% of the annual profits go to pay for the monarch’s official duties. The estate also owns the UK seabed up to 12 nautical miles out to sea and has jurisdiction over new offshore wind farms.

Ms Medi argued “the people of Wales should own and benefit from their own natural resources” as she tabled the amendment to the Bill.

The Ynys Mon MP argued that “millions of pounds generated on the Welsh Crown Estate is being taken out of Wales each year”, adding: “Why do the Scottish people get the benefits from their own water, wind and sea resources but the people of Wales can’t?”

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'Too complex'

Shadow Treasury minister James Wild questioned if Ms Medi had the support of businesses, and argued devolving the estate would be “too complex” for “licensing reasons”.

Mr Murray said: “The Government believes there is greater benefit for the people of Wales and the wider United Kingdom in retaining the Crown Estate’s current form.

“The new clause would most likely require the creation of a new entity to take on the management of the Crown Estate in Wales, which, by definition, would not benefit from the Crown Estate’s current substantial capability, capital and systems abilities.

“It would further fragment the UK energy market by adding an additional entity, and as a consequence, it would risk damaging international investor confidence in UK renewables.”

New clauses

He added: “We’re not historically analysing what may have happened in Scotland. We’re looking at the proposal put forward to us in terms of the new clauses I’m currently addressing.”

Ms Saville Roberts (Dwyfor Meirionnydd) intervened later to say: “The minister has just told the House that Wales is too small and too poor to benefit from the devolution of the Crown Estate. That is an extraordinary argument, and I’m sure the Welsh Government will share my amazement.”

Mr Murray replied: “If we were to have a devolved entity it would be starting from scratch midway through a multimillion-pound commercial tendering process, just at a time when the Crown Estate is undertaking critical investment in the UK’s path toward net zero, something I am sure she would be keen to support.”

Ms Medi’s amendment was defeated, with 59 voting in favour, 316 against, majority 257.

Speaking after the debate, she said: “Today provided Welsh Labour MPs with a real opportunity to put country before party by voting in favour of my amendment to ensure that wealth generated in Wales is kept in our communities to benefit our people. It is deeply disappointing that they failed to stand up for the interests of the people of Wales.

“This is particularly puzzling given that the Welsh Labour Government has repeatedly voiced support for transferring powers over natural resources to Wales. We are yet to see the benefits of the so-called ‘partnership in power’ between the UK Labour Government and the Welsh Labour Government, particularly when they continue to undermine each other on such key issues. A real ‘partnership in power’ would prioritise the people of Wales.

“The Government stated that the devolution of the Crown Estate to Wales was ‘too costly’. I would argue that Wales simply cannot afford to miss out any longer on the millions of pounds that are taken away from our communities every year. Our communities are crying out for real investment, and this is another missed opportunity by Labour to have the meaningful change that they promised to the people of Wales.”

'Outrageous'

Welsh Liberal Democrat Westminster Spokesperson David Chadwick said: “If Crown Estate profits were kept in Wales, it could contribute an additional £50 million to the Welsh Government’s budget. That’s more money for our public services, economic investment and infrastructure in our communities.

“At a time when public services in Wales are crumbling after 26 years of Labour rule, it is nothing short of outrageous that the Labour Government in Westminster seeks to deny Wales vital sources of income.

“The Labour Government’s refusal to devolve powers further entrenches the outrageous notion by Labour and the Conservatives that Wales is a lesser nation than Scotland.

“Instead of empowering Welsh communities to harness the benefits of their own resources, profits will continue to flow directly to London.

“This is not the vision of growth that will benefit local communities or level up left behind communities. It is a continuation of the Conservatives' failed economic model that prioritizes centralization and investment in the Southeast of England over everything else.

“The Liberal Democrats have long supported devolution and empowering local communities, and we will continue to campaign against this injustice.”

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24 comments

Y Cymro

If this anti-Welsh decision by UK Labour government doesn't make your blood boil I don't know what will? Credit goes to Llinos Media and the other Paid MPs at Westminster including the Scottish National Party for voting in favour of the devolution of the Crown Estate. We now have the scenario where a majority in the Senedd, that includes the Welsh Labour government, Plaid Cymru & Liberal Democrats want its devolution and the English Conservatives at Westminster are blocking the democratic will of the Welsh people. It's One rule for us. We are cynically and deliberately being a good held back by the English establishment. Keir Starmer cares more about Ukraine, his public image and power than he does Wales. And so-called Wales voice so cabinet Welsh secretary Jo Stevens is quisling, who is no better than treacherous Tory David TC Davies. Both are the enemy within. What will it take for Wales to make those cretins sit up in Whitehall and listen. That authoritarian idiocracy in Labour simply doesn't care about Welsh democracy. Unfortunately First Minister Eluned Morgan & Welsh Labour are incapable of standing up for Wales. Their London master simply ignores their requests for devolution enjoyed by both NI & Scotland. We not only live in a two tier United Kingdom but are led by two tier Keir Starmer.

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Brychan

Note - There are no Conservative MPs in Wales and all the Conservative MPs in England abstained (did not vote) on this amendment.

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Stephen Thomas

Did we really expect any thing different from these self serving, career orientated unionists? We need INDY a.s.a.p and I’m looking to Plaid to be far more robust and aggressive to achieve this. Being the nice guys doesn’t work

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Christine Jones

Labour putting two fingers up to Wales and the Welsh people - what a shock! They have always considered us to be bumpkins who know their place in the pecking order. As long as they feed us crumbs - often stale bread crumbs - then they know that we'll keep placing them in positions of power. As the world changes in front of us, then surely our people have to remove their blinkers and say enough is enough to Labour and to send messages to the London Establishment that the English Crown, buffeted by Unionists from Labour, the Tories and the other sycophants, has to allow the populace to benefit from their historical wealth and land grabs.

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Jo

Diolch Llinos am siarad lan dros Gymru. Eto mae Llafur a'r toriaid San Steffan yn mynd yn erbyn gofynion gwleidyddion a pobl Cymru. All yr arian ychwanegol helpu i gostwng y niferoedd sydd yn di-gartref yng Nhymru rhywbeth mae William yn dweud mae eisiau! Celwydd llwyr!

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Sylwebydd

Poiitics is the art of the possible? No. Politics is the art of the racist bully. Jo Stevens must go.If she tried in Cabinet (although I think not) to support the amendment she failed. If she didn't she is the worst sort of quisling.

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Mab Meirion

Lord Byers RTZ's director in charge of Exploration..."I would loath to see open-cast mining in all our national parks...but in two or three it would be OK"...(in Cymru ?) The 'Merioneth National Farmers Union' favours both RTZ schemes, saying... "Coed y Brenin is very poor soil" etc... 'Dolgellau Rural District Council were 'eloquent about the proposed mine'... All political parties supported the open cast mining in the hills. The estuary dredging was thought to be a red herring bargaining chip for a four square mile pit in the Hermon valley...and a new range raised from the waste... Llinos have your people go over this...it is all there...the greed and for two years they drilled night and day without permission !...

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Mab Meirion

First off, Lord Byers denied he said that one line out of a whole paragraph ! Secondly, the 'eloquence' would fit right in, here and now... Lastly, the first half of the Chapter is about Ynys Mon and RTZ... 'River of Tears'... Richard West...1970...usually an ex lib on ebay

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Brychan

Lets name the Labour MPs who think the cash is better sent to England. Alex Barros-Curtis (Cardiff West) Torsten Bell (Swansea West) Chris Bryant (Rhondda and Ormore) Stephen Doughty (Cardiff South and Penarth) Chris Elmore (Bridgend) Chris Evans (Caerphilly) Catherine Fookes (Monmouth) Gill German (Clwyd North) Betty Gittins (Clwyd East) Nia Giffith (Llanelli) Claire Hughes (Bangor Aberconwy) Gerald Jones (Merthyr and Aberdare) Ruth Jones (Newport West and Islwyn) Stephen Kinnock (Aberavan Maesteg) Jessica Morden (Newport East) Narayan Kanishka (Vale of Glamorgan) Andrew Ranger (Wrexham) Nick Smith (Blaenau Gwent) Jo Stevens (Cardiff East) Mark Tami (Alyn and Deeside) Nick Thomas-Symonds (Torfaen) Henry Tufnell (South Pembrokeshire) Steve Witherdon (Montgomeryshire) Traitors. To Wales and the people. Every last one of them.  Handing our cash and handing our resources across the border.

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John Young

No Tonia Antoniazzi (Gower) in that list. She also voted against I believe ?

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Brychan

She didn't vote.

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Brychan

Perhaps she was overcome with shame. Her constituency includes Penclawdd and when the cockle pickers hand their days work in at Crofty they have to write out a cheque to England before being allowed to transport their catch to market.

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eifion

Hopefully, they will be toast at the next GE.

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Brychan

To be fair, some of these MPs were just doing the job. Sent to Wales by the Labour Party to rule by proxy. Alex Barros-Curtis (Cardiff West and Southwark) Torsten Bell (Swansea West and Islington) Chris Bryant (Rhondda, Ogmore and High Wycombe) Betty Gittins (Clwyd East and Coventry) Stephen Kinnock (Aberavan, Maesteg and Bayswater) Narayan Kanishka (Vale of Glamorgan and Reading East) Henry Tufnell (South Pembrokeshire and Colchester) Cap doffers. Despatched to the western provinces to lord over us.

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Linda Jones

No Anna McMorrin. It seems she voted no

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Dai Ponty

Did you really think this labour maffia would give it to Wales they are an English nationalist party no different from the Tories or Fascist Farage reform party Scotland has it we are treated like dirt by the party that most of Wales vote yet they throw it back in our face we are treated like an old colony back in the days of empire Plaid needs to step up to the mark and point out to people that liebour does nothing for Wales

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R W

Westminster will keep treating us as second class citizens as long as people continue to vote for Unionist parties. When will people learn??!!

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Nia James

I have believed for many years that Labour MPs have zero interest in their constituents, and certainly no interest in Cymru. They are just there to lend them their votes every 5 years or so.

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Garycymru

Labour in Wales have gone from bring a little bit rubbish, to absolutely shameful and disgusting. "Wales best interests at heart" what a complete joke. Now we've had 2 unionist parties show their genuine contempt for Wales. The union isn't working.

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Dai Ponty

Next year is the Welsh Elections and people have now woken up to what labour are about in Wales with their attitude towards us they want your vote and thats it just like tories Wales got rid of them i think Labour wonder years in Wales are up and just hope to God the people vote for Plaid and they need to step up and not vote for Farage Fascists or right wing Tories

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Pete Cuthbert

We also need to work at the grassroots level. Yes Cymru has the potential to recruit everybody in the country, but with a membership subscription of over £20 it is never going to pick up those who might be thinking of voting for the Farage Fascists. Once YC gets its membership over 50% of the population, Westminster will take notice. Of course getting a majority Senedd under Plaid would help but I think the YC figure is the more powerful of the two.

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Undecided

I would be grateful for some proper numbers here?! Is Chadwick talking about £50m total over X years or £50m per annum? I’ve heard read 15, 120 and a few figures in between as well?

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Linda Jones

This result begs the question 'who are Welsh MPs representing in Westminster'? It certainly isn't the people of Wales

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Linda Jones

Should read 'Who are Welsh LABOUR MP's representing'

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Note - There are no Conservative MPs in Wales and all the Conservative MPs in England abstained (did not vote) on this amendment.

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