Welsh Labour mocked over independence 'costings'

All in all, Jo is thoroughly useless for Wales and the Welsh people. Can she please walk down the one way street?

Another desperate rant by Jo Stevens, nominally the Secretary of State for Wales (but not for the Cymru I recognise and want to be part of). Her hysterical claim that Plaid Cymru would “tax Welsh families into poverty or cut public services to the bone” poses a false dichotomy. And, surely, Labour got there first! The lacklustre Labour governments in Caerdydd and the sub-optimal Labour and Tory regimes that Westminster constantly visits upon us have undermined our country and society to the extent that only poverty and bone are left! Clearly, Reeves and Starmer (and Bailey) pretend to know no better – but it is the neoliberal model that’s primarily at fault. Bailey should re-read the BoE’s 2014 Q1 review… As Modern Monetary Theory (and the review) shows us, there is no limit to the money that a sovereign government can create - and they do: in the UK, it currently funds all government departments, for example. MMT at work! The constraints are the availability of resources, and the lack of a fair and effective taxation system in the UK (to control inflation).  Asking Ministers about this leads to blushes…and obfuscation and lies about poor TINA. Labour is also failing to control inflation – one would think that Starmer, of all people, would recognise the wrong tool! I suggest that he is it… Post-independence, with our own currency (essential), democratic governance, care for our people, respect for our resources and enlightened fiscal management, Cymru will prosper.  Jo Stevens is a dinosaur – out of time and in too much of our space!

Interesting how Labour are attacking Welsh independence and not getting their figures right. One of the more recent Welsh independence deficit figures is 3.4%- (https://www.yes.cymru/wales_being_too_poor_for_independence_is_false) Within international standards and manageable. It's time the Welsh public were introduced on a regular basis to alternate figures to the negative, false rubbish put out there by Unionists. However, it may not be in Plaid's best interests to delve too much into Welsh independence before the next Senedd election - it may have detrimental consequences, besides I'm pretty sure most people are fully aware that the party seeks out of the Union already. But putting right the odd false remark by Labour or Reform would not hurt, as in this case.

As someone else said in the comments section on a previous Post she's the worst Welsh Secretary we have ever had.Even worse than John Redwood and that's saying something.

Wales has a serious problem with keeping job creating talent WITHIN its borders; until it learns how to do this 'thing' an independent Wales really isn't feasible - and I write this as someone who otherwise supports an independent WALES!! GO GO WALES!

So, some research commissioned by Labour. Funny how its results are so different to research produced by non partisan academics. Desperate stuff from Jo Stevens

Jo Stevens is the female George Thomas in that she is a British Nationalist with an intense dislike of Cymru, and displays unease with any positive portrayal of our people. Her economics - and I am being very kind using that term - are the sort of thing that could have come out of a creche. Unionism has deflated our nation for generations. We really need to wake up, smell the coffee and say "bye, bye London".

The Secretary of State for (Talking Down) Wales

Based on assumptions that we retain all the current funding models but that doesnt have to be the case. Welsh Labour were decrying the crown estate issue before they won a UK General Election and had to manage the purse.

Independence is not just normal, but now a necessity with the UK on self destruct.

This is irrelevant if Plaid have said there will be no indy vote in the next Senedd term.

Lies,lies and many many more lies,it seems that that is how this neolib,fascist enabling party UK,are all about.It all began with the leader in the run up to the election,and not a thing has changed,Our Wales and Peoples would be a hell of a lot better off out of this UK.

Lets just deal with facts: Labour has had a majority in every UK General election for the last 100 years FACT, Labour has had control of the Senedd for the last 26 years FACT. Wales is amongst the poorest countries in western Europe FACT, Wales is the poorest country in the UK FACT. Labour have no shame all they want is power - they HAVE TO GO!!!!!

Welsh labour have the same problem the Tories did at the last UK GE, you can't say you're the party of change when you've had generational power and have done nothing. I only hope my fellow cymro see sense and don't vote in those corrupt and incompetent clowns Reform.

The figures compiled take into defense spending and other budgets. Wales doesn't need nukes or a royal family.