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Welsh Government steps up calls for Crown Estate devolution

By Mark Mansfield
Deputy first minister Huw Irranca-Davies

Chris Haines, ICNN Senedd reporter

Deputy first minister Huw Irranca-Davies has pledged to continue to press the case for powers over the Crown Estate amid a growing chorus of calls for devolution to Wales.

Mr Irranca-Davies supported devolving the Crown Estate, which owns much of the seabed around Wales as well as 50,000 acres of land – and has been estimated to be worth £850m.

Wales’ deputy first minister announced an expert panel will be established to advance the case and consider the practical consequences of how best to devolve the Crown Estate.

In a statement on September 30, he told the Senedd that devolution would be consistent with existing powers in Wales relating to planning, land and seabed management.

Mr Irranca-Davies, whose responsibilities include constitutional affairs, said: “We are clear that the Crown Estate should be the responsibility of the devolved government in Wales.”

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‘Wealth’

He added: “It’s important the Welsh Government has the powers to pursue net zero in a way that retains wealth in Wales, where Welsh communities have a say and can feel the benefit.”

He stressed ministers will continue to make the case for devolution to Labour counterparts in Westminster who have committed to engaging with the expert panel.

Mr Irranca-Davies reminded the Senedd that devolution of the Crown Estate in Scotland did not happen overnight. “That took many years to put together,” he said. “We are learning from this experience in Scotland in making the case ourselves.”

The MP-turned-Senedd member told the debating chamber the panel’s report will provide a solid evidence base, “helping to progress the pathway to devolution in the future”.

He told the Senedd: “We would like the group to have cross-party support, sending a clear message that Wales does not believe the current structures are working for the people and they need to be reformed.”

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‘Gamble’

Seeking to reassure the renewables industry, Mr Irranca-Davies, who is also climate change secretary, said a devolved Crown Estate would not threaten activity already under way.

All 22 councils in Wales have passed motions calling for devolution of the Crown Estate, a call echoed by an independent commission on Wales’ constitutional future in 2024.

But Janet Finch-Saunders, the Conservatives’ shadow climate secretary, reiterated her party’s opposition to the “gamble” of devolving the Crown Estate.

She accused her opposite number of being “obsessed” with constitutional matters and seeking to appease Plaid Cymru which has “propped up” the Welsh Government.

“You’re not listening to people,” she said. “They don’t want further devolution, they don’t want you to have… further powers and neither do I. There is no denying the failures that you have been responsible for: why on earth would you devolve the Crown Estate?”

‘Not bothered’

She told Plaid Cymru members: “You don’t like anything with the word ‘Crown’ on it,” arguing people “aren’t bothered” by devolution and care more about NHS waiting times.

Mr Irranca-Davies replied: “I think we disagree on pretty much everything that you’ve said,” clarifying that the Welsh Government has budgeted £20,000 for the expert panel’s costs.

Plaid Cymru leader Rhun ap Iorwerth said: “The block, of course, is Labour in Westminster now. We expect no better from the Conservatives: Janet Finch-Saunders came very close to opposing the principle of devolution itself in her contribution this afternoon.”

He added: “It’s a tale as old as time that what may make commercial sense to the UK Treasury so often comes to the detriment of Wales and our communities.”

Mr ap Iorwerth told the Senedd: “Resistance to devolving the Crown Estate is political.”

Mr Irranca-Davies welcomed gathering momentum but he said: “We need to build that consensus strongly and I hope at some point the Conservatives will see the light.”

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9 comments

Cymro Sir Fynwy

The Crown Estate, S4C and HS2. Despite complaining at the unfairness of funding or rather the lack of funding when the Tories were in power in London, nothing has changed by having Labour in power in Cardiff and London. Warthus.

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Bertie

The reality is that the unelected Etonian mandarins in Whitehall are really running the show. The main job of the blue or red team we elect is to be their messenger.

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Royston Bowen

If they ran our heath service I doubt it would be worse.

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Bertie

That's set up to fail thanks to the clever system of funding that hands over what it takes to look after younger wealthier people in England knowing full well that Wales had the oldest sickest population in the UK. Not many ex-miners in Surrey.

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Nia James

Labour in Cardiff speaks and Labour in London laughs.

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Rob

Quote "She told Plaid Cymru members: “You don’t like anything with the word ‘Crown’ on it,” arguing people “aren’t bothered” by devolution and care more about NHS waiting times." It is interesting that whenever a policy is proposed which opponents dislike, they immediately fall back on the NHS as a form of emotional blackmail. But as the classic phrase goes: “It’s the economy, stupid.” If Wales had real control over its own economic levers, including the revenues of the Crown Estate and were not obliged to contribute to costly infrastructure projects in England such as HS2, it would be in a far stronger position to fund the health service properly. The irony is that those on the right are quick to complain about a so-called dependency culture, yet they resist giving Wales the very tools it needs to become more self-reliant and deliver better public services.

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Y Cymro

Yes, control is vital to a country's prosperity. There's no logical reason to deny Wales its devolution when Scotland had responsibility over its Crown Estate devolved in 2017. The idiom, "money makes the works go round" is apt. If Wales controlled its Crown Estate and water resource could bring in billions annually to our Welsh Treasury in Cardiff Bay. We could fund not only our Welsh NHS, neglected rail & road infrastructure, but also improve Welsh society as a whole. But I find Labour, Conservatives and Reform UK prefer Wales was in a hole. 6 ft under. They don't want a prosperous Wales. Why would they. Poverty rules and they think we're fools.

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Y Cymro

Deputy FM Huw Irranca Davies and Welsh Labour can call all they like for the devolution of the Crown Estate but UK Labour are not listening. Welsh Secretary Jo Stevens made that perfectly clear with her hostile attitude towards devolution during a recent Labour party conference interview. There is no partnership of equals between Welsh Labour and UK Labour. We are their political slave, they our English overseer. The Welsh Secretary Jo Stevens isn't our voice at UK cabinet level. She is actively acting against our interests by serving her own, Labour and England's. First Minister Eluned Morgan has zero influence with the UK Government. Where Tony Blair was America's poodle , Eluned Morgan is Whitehall's whippet. Eager to please and made to run around in circles. Welsh Labour has called for the devolution of Criminal & Youth Justice. HS2 or Oxford to Cambridge consequential. Policing. Crown Estate. And have London listened? No! And they never will. They, Whitehall, will only to listen to Wales if we come from a position of strength. We must oust Welsh Labour from power next May and give a mandate to Plaid Cymru. All the other parties have two priorities. Themselves and England. Wales is not even an afterthought.

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David

Why doesn't Huw Irranca-Davies come out and say VOTE FOR PLAID CYMRU for the future of Wales.

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