Welsh Government compared to Trump after ‘violence on any side’ response to Catalonia crackdown

Franco, will be smiling from his grave as Catalan autonmy seems to die (hopefully not). This quote in his, Franco's own words would please, Brussels and the E.U technocrats : "We do not believe in government through the voting booth. The Spanish national will was never freely expressed through the ballot box. Spain has no foolish dreams..."

Members of my family fought and died alongside the Catalans against Franco. Still have the letters from Spain. They were labour but would be ashamed of this labour government for not giving any support.

I see Chris Bryant has supported the Spanish State..... no great surprise there.

What makes a small country like Wales think it can side with a big country like Spain against a small country like Catalonia. This belies the arrogance of the Welsh Government

Mae ymateb llywodraeth Cymru yn warth arnom fel cenedl war. The response of the Welsh government is a shame on us as a civilised nation. I shall never again set foot in Spain, but I shall go to Catalunya.

I don't think they believe they are siding with Spain or Catalonia, they don't see that they have the mandate to take a view, they are being good little colonials, it shows the disrespect they have for not only the democratic right of the Catalans but for democratic development in Wales. Wales powers are going to be taken from them bit by bit by Westminster the best Ca-win can muster is a strongly worded letter. We can't expect any more from this pathetic excuse for a government.

apalled that Welsh Labour say nothing as democracy is batoned to the ground, women dragged by their hair, old people thrown downstairs, watch the film footage. Plaid Ifanc defended a Catalan school voting station, it stayed open. They were horrified by what was done, a mass attack on civilian society - for voting. Nothing more. Any law against voting is illegal. They were more horrified by the silence of the democratic world. A silence that roars.

Academics and activists to one side. So many normal people here in Wales love Barcelona and I seriously doubt whether the understanding of Catalonia is that well understood. I think in this instance a positive stance supporting the people of Barcelona (the bit we all know and love) would have been really well received. Shame that never happened.

https://www.politicshome.com/news/europe/news/89454/jeremy-corbyn-calls-spanish-government-end-shocking-catalonia-violence

And when you side with the devil only evil can come of it. Labour are the bully in the south, the Tory the bully in the north, don't bother with fence sitters they have no moral perspective. Anyhow, they are foriegn political party representatives in an already oppressed country and those in charge are laughing at everyone not in the same league. We have seen Thomas, Kinnock and others (of other parties, even Welsh parties) lead the way and Jones is no exception. They are mentally locked within the honourarium system in the hope of a pat on the head and a title from the English. And for what? Treachery! What else do you call someone who pretends to be on the side of the people, but works for a foreign government?! Don't shoot the messanger they chose to be this way so it is not our fault! I followed the news closely all day from before dawn until after dusk, comparing social media to the rest, like the BBC, Sky and even yahoo, who are so pro (any authoritative state e.g.) Spain that they might has well have put at the top of their co called 'news' items 'Spain Si!' Trying to read between all the celeb goss, who did what, to who and what was said (possibly) by someone in the world of childish journalism and flashing female body bits, there was not an halfpenny's worth of real news. Live streams and independent posts by international organisations is more than enough to condemn Spain's illegal actions (okay, I hear you, well they are illegal and because a small group changes the law of any country does not make it legal for the majority. Like with Cymru we have heard these pathetic arguements over and over again. Yesterday, Carwyn Jones stood out amongst the evil of this world not to condemn anything, but to fence sit while secretly back Spain's aggressive actions. You either condemn their actions or you are with them! Simple! Do not fear, I and I noticed many others, sent messages from the decent people of Cymru to the people of Catalunya expressing our support and prayers for the safety of their people. Two, so far as I haven't checked social media fully this morn, managed to reply, the distress and cries were enough to break your heart. Carwyn Jones we see you and there is no where to hide come the day of judgement. By the way, in case you missed it yesterday, Spain has warned Scotland that they will not support their Independence and even if they manage to obtain it, Spain will veto their return to the EU. I wonder how many Spainish went to Eton? Or is it just a white decease of those that have inbred for far too long?

Like it or not, Carwyn Jones and friends are walking a very tight rope in trying to defend Welsh interests during Brexit. Siding with the SNP was a huge step for Welsh Labour, and not something they did brashly. It was deeply thought out and considered. Siding with Catalonia openly is a gamble for Welsh Labour whilst they mus lt consider longterm effects of Brexit withdrawal bill and legacy of their cooperation or lack of with Westminster. A gamble they must consider over at length before taking. They are the party in power, and of they were not moving with immense caution in this manner it would be a foolish political move for their hopes, like their hopes or not, of how they see as just yo defend Welsh interests.

The pictures, especially those of firemen confronting the police, reminded me of the miners’ strike in the UK in 1980’s 1st October 2017 was a dark day for democracy, EU and Catalan flags should be flown at half-mast outside government buildings

Ramón Luis Valcárcel, Vice President of the European Parliament gives his voice on the, Catalan vote: Mr. Valcárcel is,Spanish. “Today we have witnessed a nationalistic propaganda act, undemocratic; a coup attempt against Spanish democracy, and so a coup against Europe.”

Shame on Spanish govrnment. If you are horrified by the events in Catalonia, please sign this: https://www.change.org/p/comisión-europea-condena-el-uso-de-la-violencia-policial-contra-la-población-civil-desarmada