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Tory MS lambasts Eryri name change despite 'positive' report

By Emily Price
Eryri in north Wales

Emily Price

A Conservative MS has criticised Wales' largest national park after a decision to reclaim its Welsh name was hailed a success.

Eryri National Park Authority voted to use Yr Wyddfa for Wales' highest mountain, rather than Snowdon, and Eryri, rather than Snowdonia in November 2022 following a petition from local residents.

A new report presented to park authority councillors on Wednesday (November 13) concluded that the use of the Welsh name had been "positive".

Councillors approved a proposal this afternoon to exclusively use "Eryri" in its official logo.

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Aberconwy MS Janet Finch Saunders says that although the official name had been altered, the national park would still be known as "Snowdonia".

She said: "In a time when every authority in Wales is struggling financially, allocating resources to shift from being bilingual to Welsh would not have been my priority.

"Similarly, spending resources on rebranding in this current climate is not the best use of limited taxpayers’ resources. Is it going to help Wales reach the target of 1 million speakers by 2050? I think not.

"What would help is building more social and affordable homes within the National Park, and having Small Modular Reactors at Trawsfynydd, so that local young people have high paid jobs to take up in the area, and homes they can afford to buy and raise a family in."

Nearly 4 million people visit the oldest and biggest of Wales’ three national parks every year to explore its towering peaks and beautiful valleys.

Today's report stated that Eryri's rebrand reinforced "cultural values" and increased the "visibility of the Welsh identity" by encouraging visitors to learn basic Welsh language skills.

Councillors heard that the change aligned with broader efforts to protect indigenous and native place names worldwide, positioning Eryri as part of a "progressive movement".

The report concluded that the national park should continue to only use only "Eryri and Yr Wyddfa" in "all instances of communications that are not deemed to be statutory or legal purposes".

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Challenges

But the report also noted a several challenges and areas which required improvement.

Councillors heard how "anti-Welsh sentiment" had been stirred up on social media creating "tension" which detracted from the authority's messaging.

The report suggested that this contributed to a "lack of understanding" with visitors mistakenly believing the names were new. This in turn contributed to "resistance and confusion".

The rebrand also caused issues with the park's visibility as many people continue to search for "Snowdon" and "Snowdonia" online.

The park authority's current logo which uses the English name was partially blamed for this confusion because it had created "inconsistency".

The report recommended that the design should be updated to align with the Welsh-only naming approach - a suggestion agreed by councillors today.

It also suggested pronunciation guides to help non-Welsh speakers who "often struggle to pronounce the names".

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Eryri was recently named as one of Lonely Planet's top European destinations to visit in the winter alongside the Bavarian Alps and Lapland.

Janet Finch Saunders pointed out that in the article, the travel guide publisher had referred to the national park as "Snowdonia" instead of using the Welsh name.

She said: "The official name may have changed, but Snowdonia is still widely used across the world."

Bannau Brycheiniog National Park also chose to stop using its English name "Brecon Beacons" in official signage and literature last year.

The authority said the decision would instil "a stronger sense of Welsh identity" into the area whilst coinciding with a "new era" for the protected landscape.

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24 comments

S Duggan

'Welsh' Tories - as usual sticking up for all things Welsh..,....

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Blinedig

No such thing as a Welsh Tory anyway.

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Mark

Well that is demonstrably untrue.

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TheOtherJones

Will British nationalist right wingers ever get tired of yelling at an entire language?

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Sbeve

Janet, just leave Wales. You hate the idea of Welsh culture and we all know that. Just leave us alone and go to your beloved England.

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John Ellis

Quite. I was born and bred in the north-west of England, as, if her accent is any guide, Ms Finch-Saunders sounds as if she was too. I only ended up living in Wales initially by chance because, way back in 1964, a Welsh university made me a firm offer which I accepted, and I then ended up staying on here for years to live and work. The difference between Janet and me is that when I settled here I recognized that I was living in a different place, and that it's a place that isn't England. To judge from this and many of her other utterances, Ms Finch-Saunders simply doesn't appear to accept that reality.

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Sbeve

You are a fantastic example for people of England to follow! You're one of us now cymrawd

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phil ashe- i am not racist but..

And there , Just as we thought it reasonable to use our own language in our Nation Janet ‘Grinch’ saunders of why are you not grateful internet rise appears to decry the Welsh Language, if the Grinch had her way , Conwy Council would spending millions on importing sand to North Shore so that Dick and Ethel can enjoy making sandcastles whilst local services get cut, Remember ‘Dinosaur World ‘ at eirias park , it seems that a real saundersaurus is currently representing Aberconwy at Cardiff,

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Y Cymro

I wish the likes of Tory MS Janet Finch would do the decent thing and shut up. Eryri is the original native name not Snowdonia. Eryri was referenced by scribes over 1,100 + years ago, even before the English & England existed as a people & country. It's the usual whining from the little England party. And they are not a Welsh party by the way. So like Snowdonia let's stop using that name. Say it as we see it. They are English overseers, political provocateurs, placed in Wales to destroy Britain's native language Cymraeg, our history and culture by consuming us heart mind & soul into a greater England. They will never be satisfied until this happens.

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Sylwebydd

Stupid stand by ignorant person. Locals and visitors agree, only Mrs Bonkers and her mates get upset. Go away Sioned (sorry, Janet).

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Sbeve

Do Germans still call Bratislava "Pressburg"? No they don't.

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Mark

No, but they still call 'Gdansk' 'Danzig' and Welsh-speakers call 'Deutschland' 'Almaen'. J Jones is absolutely right - why shouldn't people refer to place names using the language that they speak? It is a perfectly natural thing to do and to pretend otherwise is ridiculous.

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Sbeve

Nonsense. There's a difference between what you call a country in your language and a name of a mountain that originally had the intent of completely replacing the native name.

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Rhosddu

She forgot to say "They're forcing it down our throats", or one of the other tropes usually wheeled out by those of a BritNat persuasion. Her remarks betray a profound bias towards seeing Wales not as a country but as nothing more than a holiday destination or a giant leisure facility..

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Valleys Lad

If you ask the right people and use the right questions, then you can get any answer you want.

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Charles Coombes

Fail to understand link between nuclear power and local jobs. The build and maintenance will go to specialist staff brought in from outside the area. Wind or solar cheaper and less damaging to the environment

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Mark

But, just like the previous nuclear power station, there will be hundreds of highly paid local jobs through the operating life of the plant. I also think nuclear power might be a little more reliable than solar power in this area! Not everybody wants to live in the dark.

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CapM

Anyone who looks up Everest on Wikipedia will. The peak is on the boundary of Nepal and Tibet so there are two names for it [at least]. A better comparison would be Uluru previously known as Ayer's rock. Uluru is accepted and used universally now. Wikipedia directs Ayer's Rock to Uluru. I expect the same will happen soon to the Snowdonia entry by the way practically everyone pronounces 'Everest' incorrectly it should be pronounced Eeverest

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CapM

You've had 66 years to come to terms with the existence of Cymraeg. Time to get over it Janet.

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Sbeve

You really are a slow person

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Fi yn unig

There are still old road name signs in the west end of Colwyn Bay which are spelt wrongly. I refer to Conway Road. JFS represents Aberconwy - no A. She should get on with telling the council to get these signs changed as their misspelling is bringing the town and her whole patch into disrepute. They must be spelt correctly.

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Mark

What in this article justifies the use of the word 'lambast' in the title? It seems all Mrs Saunders has done is question whether the money could have been better spent. I notice the journalist didn't go to the trouble of trying to establish how much public money has been spent on this exercise.

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Sbeve

You go ahead and tell countries who decolonised themselves that they wasted their money. I'd love to drive you to the border and kick you over it you quisling.

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Barry

Germanics hate being reminded of their immigrant heritage.

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Quite. I was born and bred in the north-west of England, as, if her accent is any guide, Ms Finch-Saunders sounds as if she was too. I only ended up living in Wales initially by chance because, way back in 1964, a Welsh university made m...

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