Telegraph reports 'boom' in 'Britons' quitting England for Wales

It's a modern day invasion. Drip drip drip.

This report suggests that incomers from England are allocated social housing in Wales. That's a bit rich when we consider the waiting lists within Welsh authorities who move at a snail's pace to address the needs of local people.

Well, I never! With a decent investment pot Wales offers so much, and, as one pioneer from Oxfordshire once told me, "everything here is so cheap". Note, also, the line on "moving into, or being allocated, Welsh social housing". Thank heavens that we haven't got any Welsh people needing housing, and we should also be grateful that our Councils have an abundance of resources.

Last night I sat down and watched an episode of Eastenders which is quite a rare occasion for me. The programme moved from one miserable shouty depressing scene to another for half an hour. If this is an example of the norm in England it's no wonder they are moving out.

'Wales has seen the most dramatic increase in migration from England, with a 65% increase year on year ...' We made that move back in 2016. But although my other half and I are both Manchester born and bred, I moved to Wales as a student and stayed on here to live and work for the whole of my 20s and 30s, and my partner spent part of her childhood in Wales as a consequence of her dad's work. And both of us have gained at least some knowledge of Welsh. So maybe we're not wholly typical?! And, as an afterthought, I can't see that many incomers would be allocated Welsh social housing, given how hard it is to obtain. Or, indeed, that most of them would want it!

Cymru desperately needs to start attracting the working age professional classes, before it is hollowed out to contain either the (diminishing) young, or the (dependant) old. Why do you think that Bronglais Paediatric Dept is closing? That's a massive blow to Ceredigion.

If they 1) Work, 2) respect our language and culture, 3) don't just come here to spiv off limited public resources, then I'm Ok with this. You only have to travel to much of the soul-less urban sprawl that is England to understand why they want to change countries, but then we need to regulate our developments so that they're quality not quantity.

So why wasn't this factored into other housing issues reports by WG an LA's, likely more housing used in this migration than 2nd homes or holiday lets by Welsh families.

You may find some of the people you describe above may do neither of 1, 2, nor 3! Maybe we should work towards a points system like other countries.

Colonisation is still live and kicking.

I am an incomer long ago and proud to be called "adopted Welsh". My concern here is my partner and friends often say they value my good manners and respect for Welsh people and culture. This obviously means they don't find it standard by other English incomers. There is an opening for a Croeso a Cymru project to help incomers settle in. Useful information on practical resources locally and advice on how to slow down, where to go for days out, a potted Welsh history - and do's dont on how to show respect. Could make a good website.

“People are most likely to move to Wales when they are student age"  Students come to universities. Who knew?

As my name says i live in the Pontypridd area when in town i go into the same cafe and i hear the accents of people talking to others and they all say the same they have moved to this area from social housing in London south east of England to social housing here the councils in England pay money to Welsh councils they also move these families to other parts of England poorer areas of England like the North East or North of England

Gwladychu. Wedi ei hyrwyddo gan Lywodraeth Cymru a'r cynlluniau 'datblygu' lleol y maent yn rhoi rheidrwydd ar Gynghorau i'w mabwysiadu efo niferoedd enfawr o dai, tra bo ein poblogaeth naturiol yn syrthio. Mae'r gelyn o fewn y gaer.

Now will these English migrants coming over here in there small coupes respect that they are now in another country not an extension of England as seen in Southern Spain where expats open English bars , refuse to engage with the Spanish language & culture, turning it into Blackpool in the sun. Very likely. The history books tell us so. Look, I'm not taring all English with the same brush. We have enough Welsh people in Wales that would happily stab us in the back. And of course there are good English people who love Wales, who want to immerse themselves in Welsh culture. But sadly the likelihood is they will Anglicise & change the political & cultural landscape of an area as seen in Flintshire and other border counties where they remove bastardise & corrupt our historic place names , refuse to at least learn basic Welsh, who tend to bring their right-wing political attitudes from England to areas of Wales.

I thought the Daily Telegraph and it's right-wing allies believed that wokery, 20mph, rampant anti-English sentiment and the COVID restrictions were putting people off visiting Wales? Now there's saying there's an exodus to live in Wales?

Where I'm from you get a lot of older people who have come here to die buy up the houses. If not that then they buy holiday homes, I think there should be border controls to be honest. Ghost towns and a high population of imported older migrants are a big strain on the economy. Colonisation of Wales is still ongoing unfortunately, and the only nationalist party around wouldn't come a mile from this conversation.

What money, we are told pensioners are poor. Does our NHS get more money for a farmed put aging English population, doubt it. Drain our resources more like. Before you take in the rude culture shock likely to be inflicted

they shouldnt get social housing!

It shows. The racism towards the Welsh I hear, is now every other day, rather than once or twice a week. Comments like " it sounds like they're clearing their throats" or " what is that gibberish on the roadsigns are unfortunately regular. For a race of people who pretend to be protective of their culture, many of them behave absolutely appallingly towards others.

Does the Telegraph really mean "Britons", i.e. Celts who hitherto chose to remain in the part of their homeland colonised by the Angles, Saxons, Jutes, Normans, etc. and have now decided to move to Cymru or is it referring English people who have now decided they prefer to live in Cymru?

What does this show you ? It shows an England within the UK is failing its own population. They have given up hope for any reasonable standard of life in England and put their trust in Cymru Wales. They will be warm to the benefits of an independent Cymru Wales. It has shown that the UK (using Drakefords term) IS NO INSURANCE POLICY for Cymru Wales. This is why we should seek this alternative: To take over our own affairs and that means controlling our own economy, policies and politics. It is time to leave the disaster which is the UK. For Cymru Wales to seek its future in Europe/EFTA/EEA/EU and the world.

The Welsh don’t like the Welsh so the friends from across the border have no chance