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Senedd Committee recommends crackdown on politicians who deliberately lie

By Emily Price
Senedd Members in the Chamber - Image: Senedd Cymru

Emily Price

The Senedd Standards Committee has unveiled its plans to crackdown on politicians who deliberately lie.

In a report published today (19 February 2025), the Committee recommended expanding electoral law for Senedd election candidates and said there should be a mechanism for MSs to be disqualified from office if they deliberately mislead.

In January, calls were made for a new recall system which would allow voters to remove and replace an MS if they seriously breach the Code of Conduct.

Now the Committee is going further, calling on the Welsh Government to strengthen the law to prevent and punish politicians and election candidates who deliberately lie.

When developing recommendations for the Welsh Government, members of the Committee heard evidence from independent academics and organisations.

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The report is calling for:

  • A toughening of existing laws covering Senedd elections, expanding an existing offence to include deliberate deception by candidates.
  • The Code of Conduct for MSs to be strengthened, adding an explicit rule to cover deception, and note it online if MSs have lied.
  • More independence when investigating complaints and allowing people who aren’t politicians to sit on the Standards of Conduct Committee.
  • An increase in the Standards Commissioner’s powers – allowing them to initiate their own investigations rather than waiting for complaints to be submitted.
  • MSs to publicly correct false statements and sanction members who fail to do so.

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Chair of the Senedd’s Standards Committee, Hannah Blythyn, said: "Toughening rules for Members of the Senedd and candidates standing for election is critical at a time when public trust in our institutions is low.

"The next Senedd election in 2026 will bring big changes to how our parliament is elected and structured. It is only right that we use this opportunity to review the way politicians conduct themselves during elections and after they elected.

"The Senedd must represent the people of Wales effectively and people should be able to trust those who represent them. Our report is putting forward recommendations to radically enhance our rules and make it clear to anyone who wants to hold public office that deliberately deceiving is not acceptable.

"By strengthening the law governing elections, toughening our Code of Conduct and giving more power and independence to those investigating complaints, we can start to rebuild public trust in our political institutions and support a parliament fit for the future."

Misled

Sam Fowles is a Director of the Institute for Constitutional and Democratic Research and a barrister.

He has appeared in many of the most significant "political lying" cases of recent years including when Scotland's highest civil court determined that Boris Johnson had misled the Queen over the prorogation of Parliament.

Mr Fowles says the Senedd committee's report "quite rightly" rejects claims that it's "just too difficult" to demand honesty from politicians.

He said: "Without political honesty, democracy cannot function. We cannot hold power to account, or have a meaningful public debate, unless we base that debate in reality.

"Unfortunately some - thankfully not all - politicians seem worryingly willing to embrace lying for political gain. Fortunately, the public is ahead of politicians on this, with the vast majority of voters supporting a law to punish political liars.

"This report is, quite rightly, a rejection of the counsels of doom which say that demanding politicians are honest is just too difficult or that politicians have a right to deceive the public.

"The existing law already gives us the ingredients for an effective law against lying in politics. We just need to use the tools we already have."

Regulations

Mr Fowles added: "The criminal law and the law of defamation already define and prohibit deliberate deception. We already have professional regulations which require other professions - like lawyers and doctors - to act honestly.

"We don’t need to re-invent the wheel; we just need to hold politicians to the same professional standards we expect from others.

"But this report is only the start of the process. The focus now switches back to the Welsh Government. They have committed to a law which will genuinely penalise political liars before 2026.

"The Standards Committee has told them it can be done. The Welsh Government now needs to draft a law that isn’t just symbolic, but genuinely effective.

"At minimum, it must ensure that the new rules are enforced by an independent tribunal, that MSs and candidates are held to the same standards of truth telling, and that justice is speedy and transparent."

The Welsh Government must now respond to the report and its recommendations.

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22 comments

Jeff

My money is on independent tribunals having no teeth and taking too long. I would like to be surprised here and see swift and meaningful action but been around the block a few times and usually disappointed when these types of measures are announced. Time will tell.

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Stephen Thomas

If it happens Andy Davies will be on borrowed time

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Mab Meirion

In the face of an international tempest of politicians' lying, Cymru sets her moral compass toward the light... As the liars are silenced we must also face down the fantasists... There should be no special breakfasts, FM, for the chosen few......

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Why vote

Please define, political lying.

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Fanny Hill

Hmm, Boris Johnson when his lips move, everything written on the side of the Brexit Bus, ARTD, Farage when his lips move, Trump when his lips move, especially over Ukraine, J D Vance when he accuses western nations of trying to shut down free speech whilst failing to condemn Putin's Russia and its treatment of anyone who dares to voice even the smallest dissent. Not necessarily definitions but certainly examples of proponents of the art.

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Eric Blair

Generally whenever a politician utters a sound.

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Erisian

I think you may be missing the point Yes, some probably will claim they believed something that is then shown to be utter baloney. This will shine a spotlight on one or more of the following: Their stupidity / guilability Their lack of due dilligence Their predjudice / confirmation bias Even more serious misdirection by the leaders of their own party. And if they can't convince us it's not their fault - they get punished What's not to like?

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David Richards

They wont get 'punished'. It's unworkable and will almost certainly end up in the courts - in all likelihood the UK supreme court. Why do you think something like this has never been introduced in any other democracy?

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Mab Meirion

The world is full of liars, keep the nursing course in Cardiff and ditch the 'How to Fool the Public' courses, so helpful to so many careers down there in and around around Desolation Bay...

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hdavies15

You were on -2 just then so I marked you up cos you so evidently touch a few nerves somewhere. Some of these public figures and their goffers have been lying for so long they are existing in a fantasy world with alternative science, alternative history, alternative truth. Must be those powders they inhale.

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David Richards

A laudible aim - but who gets to decide if a politician in Wales has 'lied'....and who gets to determine if what theyve said is a 'lie'? Anyone who thinks this wouldnt end up in the courts - maybe even the UK's supreme court - is living in cloud cuckoo land. Until now it's been up to the electorate to decide on the honesty - or otherwise - of politicians, and to vote accordingly....and its way of doing things which has served democracies (reasonably) well over time. Ive seen it said in other reports that among the motivations for some of those in the current senedd who support this legislation is they see it as a way of clipping Reform UK's wings (with some polls suggesting Farage's party could be the largest party in Wales after next year's Senedd elections). But the correct way of combatting reform in Wales is surely by exposing the bankrupty of their policies (they are a party that have nothing to offer Wales) not by trying to create and use legalistic devices to thwart them? (as this move certainly would appear to be). Furthermore it wont work - the welsh electorate will see this for what it is and vote accordingly next year (alas probably in even larger numbers for Reform than they otherwise would have). For the sake of Welsh devolution i sincerely hope the Senedd throws out this ill thought out and almost certainly unworkable piece of legislation.

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Peter Cuthbert

I would wish to disagree. The importance of this is that it sets a bar on the degree of lying that politicians can get away with in their pronouncements. If they do lie and get found out then they will have to stand up in the Senedd and recant or the system will grind and eventually catch up with them. The recent past hs show that many right wing politicians knowing lie and now we have an opportunity to push for honesty. Will it be a well writtn piece of legislation? It should be since there is a good body of examples from the professions and the police about such behaviour. The key problem is going to be whether Senedd parties will get leaned on by the English parties to actively disrupt it. The bigger problem facing the Senedd is the foolish choice of the List System for the election in 2026.

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David Richards

Had it been in place a year ago we would have had the perfect opportunity to see it in action, when a dispute between the then first minister's version of events and a member of his cabinet clearly showed they couldnt both have been telling the truth ie. it could be said one of them was 'lying'. But how would the Senedd - or any body it appointed - have been able to establish which one of them was being truthful? I honestly dont see how they could have done so (only a criminal investigation might have been able to establish the truth of what took place and this proposed legislation doesnt give the senedd any such powers).

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Jones

Did Vaughan Gethin vote for this. Lying is not monopolised by Reform or right wingers

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Adrian

Johnson (and who better?) took it to its absolute end point when in office. Ultimately, lying maggots can claim they actually believed what they said to be true and, regardless of any evidence, no one will be able to prove that they didn't. This is the usual displacement idiocy being conducted while the nation collapses into chaos: anything other than do some actual work, or craft some meaningful policy.

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John_Dorie

who gets to decide if a politician in Wales has ‘lied’ - Hopefully that should be a group of the electorate. It doesn't matter anyway, they seem to have blocked the move, so politicians have voted to carry on lying as normal

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Keith Parry

Yet more power for the party elites to stuff the Senedd with Yes men and women. Ghastly idea like the closed list system. Wales will be controlled by about six hidden people,

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Evan Aled Bayton

This is pointless as proving beyond reasonable doubt that an individual knew they were lying at a given time is almost impossible.

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John Ellis

It's a noble aspiration, and creditable on that ground alone. But I do wonder just how easy it would be, in many cases, to demonstrate beyond reasonable doubt that a politician had deliberately lied!

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Adrian

You may just as well criminalise Ed Miliband for being delusional

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Bob

Ambitious is not the same as delusional. Something that confuses Brexiteers.

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Jeff

There were no parties.

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You were on -2 just then so I marked you up cos you so evidently touch a few nerves somewhere. Some of these public figures and their goffers have been lying for so long they are existing in a fantasy world with alternative science, alterna...

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