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Rhodri Morgan and Peter Hain 'thought a referendum on more powers for the National Assembly would be lost'
Martin Shipton
A research paper written by a Clerk to the House of Commons Clerk has shed fresh light on constitutional rows within Welsh Labour in the early years of devolution.
Dr Adam Evans, a former Clerk to the Welsh Affairs Committee who is also an Honorary Research Fellow at Cardiff University, tells how First Minister Rhodri Morgan and Welsh Secretary Peter Hain both thought a referendum on more powers for the then National Assembly would be lost.
He also reveals how Morgan wasnât told for months that a Cabinet committee had vetoed a compromise proposal he had devised.
Evans writes: âTowards the end of 2003, attention in Number Ten returned to the issue of securing an agreed position on further devolution in response to the Richard Commission [which had recommended full lawmaking powers for the Assembly in devolved areas].
âWriting to the Prime Minister [Tony Blair] on 26 November 2003, ahead of another bilateral meeting with the First Minister, [the PMâs senior policy adviser Alasdair] McGowan suggested that the First Ministerâs âprivate viewâ was that while âtax powers would require a second referendumâ, primary legislative powers or a wider set of devolved responsibilities âwould notâ. This was a particularly significant consideration as both the First Minister and Welsh Secretary âdesperately want to avoid another referendumâ as they were convinced âwe would lose itâ.
âAs anticipated by McGowan, media coverage was quick to highlight the divisions that the Reportâs recommendations would trigger within Labour. Writing in The Times on 1 April 2004, Greg Hurst suggested that the report would âunleash a fierce debate in the Labour Partyâ between Labourâs Assembly group which was âkeen for more powersâ and Welsh Labour MPs who feared âtheir role will vanishâ.
"Indeed, while Hurst noted that the Welsh Secretary was expected by some to âseek a deal that backs a bigger Assembly with law making powers but rejects a switch to STVâ, while his deputy in the Wales Office, Don Touhig âis said by MPs to oppose giving the Assembly more powersâ.
"Noting that the Welsh Labour party had called a special conference on 11 September âto debate its policy as a first step towards including the plans in its manifestoâ, the question of whether further powers would require a referendum risked posing âfurther controversyâ for the party.
âIndeed, it became rapidly clear in the weeks that followed that a majority of Welsh Labour MPs would oppose any move to primary law making powers without a referendum. While this number included seasoned devo-sceptics such as Llew Smith (MP for Blaenau Gwent), the ranks of Labour MPs demanding a referendum before primary legislative powers extended to those who had previously been considered to be more sympathetic to devolution, including Huw Irranca-Davies (MP for Ogmore) and Wayne David (MP for Caerphilly).
"In his diary entries for this time, the then Welsh Secretary (Peter Hain) noted the âdifficult challengeâ he faced in making âprogress towards getting the Assembly more powersâ, as well as the âdifficult series of discussions [he had] in the Welsh group of Labour MPsâ. These MPs, he emphasised, âwere deeply hostile to any more powers going down to the Assemblyâ. To make matters more problematic for Hain, he noted that all of the Welsh Labour Ministers in Whitehall, including his predecessors as Welsh Secretary, Paul Murphy and Alun Michael (the former First Secretary), were also âvery opposed to supporting any major advances [in devolved powers]â.
âWith the report published and the date confirmed for the partyâs Special Conference, the First Minister put forward his thoughts on how the party should respond to Richard during a keynote speech before the Economic and Social Research Council.
âAfter thanking the Commission for the âvery valuable taskâ it had undertaken, the First Minister explained that he and the Welsh Secretary had been working to âfashion a [Labour] response to the Richard proposals which commands sufficient support to move forwardâ. While the way forward was still to be determined, the First Minister was clear that that status quo wasnât tenable, arguing that the âsticking plasterâ current arrangements suffered from a âlack of stable foundationsâ and that âmore durable arrangements now need to be put in placeâ.
"While the Welsh Secretaryâs memorandum had been silent on the First Ministerâs proposed scheme [which involved giving the Assembly powers to amend laws made at Westminster], his spoken contribution during the Ministerial Committee on Devolution Policy meeting made clear it was a non-starter. Noting simply that the âWelsh Assembly Government was currently proposing enhanced secondary legislative powers with the ability to make secondary legislation retrospectiveâ, the Welsh Secretary confirmed that âthis would not be acceptable to the Governmentâ.
âWhile ⌠the First Ministerâs favoured approach ⌠had been rejected in Whitehall, the First Minister had not only not been informed of this, but had continued to champion the ideaâas could be seen from the Better Governance for Wales policy paper and the Welsh Labour Partyâs special conference.
âAs he admits in his diaries, the Welsh Secretary had âlet Rhodri go ahead with promoting it [his scheme] because he was terrified about the idea of a referendum on full primary law-making powers, although ⌠he would ideally of course want theseâ.
âThis communication failure meant that when it came to preparing a draft White Paper, the First Minister continued to press his proposal. Indeed, Hainâs diaries suggest that the First Minister was âabsolutely weddedâ to the idea. Unsurprisingly, this meant, according to Hainâs diaries, that the talks between both individuals âgot bogged downâ on the First Ministerâs proposals.
âIn an attempt to offer an alternative, the Welsh Secretary proposed a scheme whereby, under the affirmative procedure, Parliament could debate and vote on orders in council providing the Assembly with further powers. This initially resulted in a âpretty tenseâ encounter between the two gentlemen in October 2004, and led, in Hainâs words, to an âeffective stalling [of] the whole processâ due to âhis refusal to moveâ on the issue.
âHowever, in early 2005, having secured the support of senior Welsh Labour MPs, and devo-sceptics, such as Paul Murphy, the Welsh Secretary, according to his diaries, was able to persuade the First Minister that he was unable to deliver the First Ministerâs scheme and that the First Minister should instead accept the order-making arrangements that the Welsh Office were proposing.â
Eventually a referendum on giving the then Assembly primary law-making powers was won in 2011. However, there was no referendum before income tax was partially devolved.
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