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Reform UK candidate voted Plaid Cymru whilst working for disgraced politician Nathan Gill

By Emily Price
Gethin James taking part in S4C's Y Byd yn ei Le programme

Emily Price

A Reform Wales Senedd election hopeful advocated voting for Plaid Cymru whilst he was employed by disgraced former Wales leader Nathan Gill.

On June 6 2017, two days before the general election, Gethin James - who was then a Senedd staffer - published a post to social media saying that he planned to vote for Plaid Cymru's Ben Lake.

Responding to a now deleted post on X, formerly Twitter, James wrote: "I'll be voting for @BenMLake to silence the Liberals #Ceredigion #UKIP #brexit."

Gethin James said he would vote for Plaid Cymru in 2017 - Image: X

Two days later, Lake won the Ceredigion constituency, gaining the seat from Liberal Democrat Mark Williams with 29.2% of the overall vote.

At the time he said he was voting for Plaid, James was working for ex-Reform politician Nathan Gill as staffer in the Welsh Parliament.

Gill recently pled guilty to eight counts of taking bribes in return for making pro-Russian statements in the European Parliament between 6 December 2018 and 18 July 2019.

He is scheduled to be sentenced in November at the Old Bailey in London.

Gill was first elected as a UKIP MEP in 2014 and was one of seven UKIP members who won seats in what was then known a the Welsh Assembly in the 2016 election.

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After infighting he left the party's group in August that year to sit as an independent member for north Wales before he was replaced by UKIP's Mandy Jones in December 2017.

Gill went on to lead Reform UK's 2021 Welsh Parliament election campaign.

Although he was sitting in the Welsh Assembly as an independent in 2017, Gill was still sitting under UKIP's banner alongside Nigel Farage in the European Parliament whilst James worked for him.

It's unclear why James chose to support Plaid Cymru in the 2017 general election when he could have voted for UKIP's candidate for the Ceredigion constituency, Tom Harrison.

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'Disrepute'

A political source told Nation.Cymru: "At the time, when he was voting for Plaid, Mr James was a Nathan Gill staffer in what was then the Welsh Assembly.

"Mr Gill sat as an Independent UKIP representative in the Assembly - now Senedd - whilst also sitting as part of the UKIP group, along with Mr Farage, in the European Parliament.

"Mr James was later employed by Mandy Jones in the Assembly/Senedd.

"Also, there was a UKIP candidate in the Ceredigion parliamentary constituency in 2017, whilst Mr James advocated a Plaid Cymru vote.

"So, Mr James was employed by a UKIP representative but advocated voting Plaid Cymru in an election when there was a UKIP candidate in his constituency who he could have supported.

"Mr James' actions were public opposition to the party whose representatives employed him and he brought that party into disrepute.

"If Mr Gill or Mr Farage knew of his actions, why didn't they ask him to stop his opposition to the party that they were representing at the time?

"If Reform UK promote him as one of the top three candidates in a Senedd constituency in the near future, what is to say that he won't behave in the same treacherous and underhanded manner like he has in the past?

"If he does, will Reform UK end up having to expel him as a party member shortly after supporting his election?

"It would be interesting to hear Mr James' and Reform UK's present thoughts on this."

Questions

James recently told politicians in an S4C green room that he had worked for Nathan Gill in the Welsh Parliament and that he had ambitions to stand for Reform UK in the May Senedd election next year.

We asked Gethin James the following questions:

*Does Reform UK know that you previously publicly announced you were voting Plaid Cymru whilst working for a UKIP representative?

*What was it about Plaid Cymru that made you lend the party your vote?

*When you worked for Nathan Gill, did you have any suspicions or concerns about his links to Russia?

*What did you think when you saw that your former employer had pleaded guilty to taking Russian bribes? Did it surprise you?

*When was the last time you spoke to Nathan Gill - are you still friends?

We did not received a response. Reform UK was also invited to comment but did not respond.

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12 comments

Amir

These guys never respond, yet the electorate seem to lap them up. They don't anything once they get elected, and yet no one says anything. Weird times we live in. We are so well connected and yet we remain disconnected from reality and each other.

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John Ellis

Tactical voting, I suppose?!

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Fanny Hill

Of course, but Adrian claimed it was undemocratic when I suggested doing so in Caerphilly.

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hdavies15

No big deal. People change sides all the time. Indeed, it seems to be a growing habit right now. No doubt some "well meaning" soul will see this as "evidence" that Plaid was a righty wing fascist party back in 2017! All sorts of wild imaginations out there.

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Y Cymro

This says everything about those allegedly Welsh standing for Reform UK. They are self hating, politically confused, who are willing to stab their country in the back to aid an Anglo-French multimillionaire public schoolboy's egotrip. And yes I agree. Wales desperately needs change. But change it for the better not worse. After all, we've had 26 years of Welsh Labour rule. Suffered 14 years of little England chaotic anti-Wales Tory proxy rule. And similarly we've had 15 months of UK Labour corruption, policy flip flopping, where Wales has not only been robbed of consequential but patronised by a government as bad if not worse as the last Conservative administration. So don't be fooled by Reform's Llyr Powell in Caerphilly or Wales with Trojan Tory Nigel Farage and his fascist land of milk and honey utopia next Senedd election. Both have zero interest in Wales or Welsh democracy. Be smart. Do some research. Think before you embrace your abusers. You might regret your decision if you do.

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Anonymous

Oh relax everyone - Plaid will win the by-election tomorrow. The fact that Reform voters are shy voters and so are not counted in the polling is irrelevant. Plaid are going to win.

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Baxter

Only if the left-left vote tactically which isn't what they do. Splitting the pro-Wales vote will gift this to Reform.

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Chris

But the far right vote is split too: Ukip, Tory, Reform. Fingers crossed.

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CapM

' I’m a floating voter: I’ll vote for whoever I think presents the best offering at any given time.'  So that would suggest that when it comes to voting you are unencumbered by any overarching principles or vision or consideration of medium to long term consequences of your voting choice. Voting based on personal desire would be pragmatic but would only be a 'world view' if you consider the world is centered on you. It could therefore be said to be a very unbalanced view.

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hdavies15

I suspect that most of the electorate have a set of principles that are predominantly "self centred" or just running on autopilot. Our uninspiring host of politicians have not helped much to instill any sense of vision, aspiration or ambition other than "what's in it for me".

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CapM

Catch twenty two. Voters won't vote for representatives that tell them what they don't want to hear. We get representatives who don't tell us what we don't want to hear. However the maths tell us that that there's tens of thousands of voters for each representative.So where does the problem and solution really originate.

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Fanny Hill

So what exactly does Reform have to offer?

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Of course, but Adrian claimed it was undemocratic when I suggested doing so in Caerphilly.

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