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Reform UK candidate says women should stay at home and look after the kids

By Mark Mansfield
Reform's Mark Lawrence is seated fourth from the left

Martin Shipton

A Reform UK Senedd candidate shocked those attending a hustings meeting by suggesting that women should stay at home and look after their children instead of going out to work.

Mark Lawrence is Reform’s number three candidate in the super-constituency of Pontypridd Cynon Merthyr and was speaking as the representative of his party at the election event in Pontypridd Rugby Club on the evening of April 20.

A member of the audience who contacted Nation.Cymru said: “The Reform candidate was answering a question about the high cost of childcare. He quoted some figures showing that a very high proportion of the income of someone he knew well was going on childcare. He said women should stay at home and look after their children.

“Audience members were stunned that he said that and Heledd Fychan, the Plaid Cymru candidate, said she was so angry that for a moment she couldn’t answer the next question at the hustings.”

The audience member said: “The Reform candidate was quite confident and recognised he had offended people but said that the idea that women should stay at home to look after their children was ‘just [his] opinion.’”.

In a Facebook post, Beth Winter wrote: "Last night's hustings in Pontypridd, organised by Trussell Trust Merthyr Cynon Foodbank Pontypridd Foodbank dealt with the critically important issues of food poverty and hardship in our communities.

"My thanks to Trussell and to our audience who submitted such a range of questions. It is clear that local people care and are committed to finding solutions.

"It is an indictment of our society that in one of the richest countries in the world, people depend on foodbanks.

"We could eradicate food poverty in this country tomorrow if there was the political will to do so.

"We need to come together across our communities to demand the right to food - women, children, men, young, old - as we did for the recent Right to Food UK Commission's community assembly in Aberdare."

Choices

Plaid Cymru's lead candidate Heledd Fychan also posted to Facebook a message that stated: "Reform candidate Mark Lawrence — third on their list here in Pontypridd Cynon Merthyr — said he would prefer the focus to be on supporting women to stay at home to care for their children rather than investing in childcare.

"He also stated that, in his experience, all the women he knew wanted to stay at home, and that he believed the emphasis on childcare provision was misplaced.

"Views on childcare and work are, of course, deeply personal, and families make different choices. But access to affordable, high‑quality childcare is fundamental to women having real choice — whether that means staying at home, working, or balancing both.

"Childcare shouldn't only be seen as the responsibility of women either, and I can't believe I have to say this in 2026. Views like that firmly belong in the dinasour section of a museum!

"If Reform were to win the most votes in Pontypridd Cynon Merthyr, Mark Lawrence would sit in the Senedd. It’s worth reflecting on what kind of voices and priorities we want represented there."

Major issue

The issue of affordable childcare has been a major issue in the Senedd election campaign, with Plaid Cymru is promising to provide free childcare for all children aged nine months to four years if it forms the next Welsh government.

When party leader Rhun ap Iorwerth announced the pledge during Plaid’s annual conference in Swansea, he said the “transformative” policy would offer at least 20 hours of free childcare a week for 48 weeks each year by 2031.

He said it would give families “a helping hand with the things that matter the most.”

Under the plan, free childcare would be made available to all families regardless of income or employment status, making Wales the first UK nation to offer such a universal scheme.

The party estimates the proposal could be worth around £32,500 to families over the first four years of a child’s life.

At present, childcare support in Wales, introduced from 2017 by the Welsh Labour government, applies mainly to working parents, students, or families living in specific “Flying Start” areas.

Families earning less than £100,000 are entitled to 30 hours of free care for children aged three to four, while some two-year-olds in selected areas receive 12.5 hours per week.

Free childcare

Plaid’s policy would extend free childcare to every family, starting with 20 hours a week for children aged nine months to two years.

The scheme would be rolled out in three stages over the next parliamentary term and completed by 2031.

Ap Iorwerth said the plan would be funded from within the existing Welsh government budget, estimating that by the end of the rollout, annual spending on childcare would reach about £800m.

He said about £400m could be made available in the next budget if other services rise with inflation. “This is money that we know we can afford,” he said.

The Wales Green Party has also pledged universal childcare for children aged nine months to four years, without requiring parents to work a minimum number of hours.

Existing childcare schemes will be unified into a single, simpler system available for 48 weeks of the year.

A universal block of 20 hours, alongside additional funded hours offered on a sliding scale of fees based on income, will be created. The universal offer will be expanded over time, the party has pledged.

The Welsh Conservatives are proposing 30 hours of free childcare per week from nine months old until school age, aiming to match the offer available in England.

The Welsh Liberal Democrats are pledging to deliver free childcare from nine months to four years, 30 hours a week, 48 weeks a year, with party leader Jane Dodds saying the policy is the "single most significant way" of reducing child poverty in Wales.

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48 comments

John Ellis

'A Reform UK Senedd candidate shocked those attending a hustings meeting by suggesting that women should stay at home and look after their children instead of going out to work.' That was pretty much my father's view, as a man of his time who was born in 1906. It wasn't entirely my mother's opinion, but even she wouldn't for a moment have been willing to undertake a full-time job which would have meant that she wouldn't be around when her little lad finished school for the day! But of course the difference back then in the 1950s was that one single wage earner in a household could generally earn enough to keep a family adequately housed, clothed and fed without the need for both parents to be in employment. And now that's a world long vanished - and seemingly beyond recall. As usual, Reform UK's advocates demonstrate their sentimental nostalgia for a time well and truly past and gone, and their wistful posturing is never going to bring that time back. Reform are often portrayed by their opponents as ideological ghouls, and indeed some of them appear to be actually that. ,What gets less attention, perhaps, is that they're also unrealistic fools.

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Fi yn unig

A question this guy needs to answer is how does he think one man on the minimum wage is going to house, clothe and feed his family alone when the greed of the shareholder tyranny must be paid first as a societal priority including the stuffing full of Tices' offshore Jersey accounts? Even with his wife out working aswell, running a home and a family is nigh on impossible against this financial terrorism which his private company thugs mete out. Bury them at the ballot box.

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John Ellis

I deliberately tried to avoid any conjectural argument in my initial post, but I don't personally dissent from your speculation about 'societal priority'.

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Fi yn unig

Apologies. I maybe should have commented separately and certainly was not disputing anything you said. There were times in the '70s when only my Father was working but the viability of that position disappeared rapidly after that. In my married abd working life, it has always been two persons' hands to the pump. I stand by what i said about the Reformoron.

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hdavies15

Nicely put John. We tend to ignore the point that most women that need childcare support are working mothers .... who need to work! Most of those mothers who have more than say 3 kids are normally at home anyway, or in low paid part time work. Some will be more inclined to stay at home now that child benefit ceiling is removed.

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Cadwgan

There was no cap on the number of children on child benefit, only that there is a taper at £60 000 earnings. The two child cap was on tax credits.

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Jeff

Lot of US religious far right money into reform. Reform has a problem with women. That is women who want their lives.

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Charlie

It was notable that they overlooked the highly talented and extremely competent Laura Anne Jones as leader in Wales, choosing instead to parachute in a man.

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hdavies15

Oh that's wit! LAJ highly talented and extremely competent! Sarcasm is alive and well.

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Charlie

Perhaps a little but I was surprised when they didn't pick her for the gig. It says a lot about Nigel's autocratic party control, a lack of respect for Wales and their attitude to women.

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Jeff

Two people jumped ship but he was never going too pick any one of them. Farage has form. Supports an abuser in the US who was also a close friend of Epstein, but he is rich so you know, morals and all. Uses Tate as a role model and source of info. Supported an MP that gave woman a serious kicking and only binned him when covid fincials appeared, constantly talks down to woman reporters, "listen love" etc. Appointed Orr to reform, you really need to understand what a threat Orr is to democracy. The list goes on.

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Charlie

Evans was too late to the party but Jones should've been a shoo-in, had Reform been a genuine project of political and constitutional reform and not a Trojan horse for nefariousness.

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Jeff

Neither of them, no matter the timing, was going to be picked and we saw that. Best dont think in “had” for this mob. Think what they will do and that is a vile outcome. e.g. their latest missive on sending people to be murdered, including women.

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Resigned

It’ll be Reform’s young sons terrorising our neighbourhoods, unemployable, disguised in balaclavas and angry at the world due to their largely absent, aggressive, game-playing fathers.

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Richard Jenkins

Nuff said?

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Brychan

These comments must come as a shock to Cllr Linden Kemkaran, the Reform leader of Kent County Council. Her family live in Headcorn, Kent and she herself takes advantage of free childcare funded by her own council to allow her to carry out her duties. It could be argued that Mark Lawrence the Reform candidate in Pontypridd is not expressing an official policy of his party. This is strange as he was 'vetted' as a Senedd candidate by Cllr Maxwell Harrison who represents Sheppey in Kent for Reform. He is cabinet member for Communications and Engagement, appointed by Linden Kemkaran, the Reform leader, the very person who takes advantage of the free childcare. Perhaps it's Reform policy that just Welsh children who should not be able to access free childcare?

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Betsy

Awful. But what is missed is that there will be certain sections of The Greens that feel exactly the same way...

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Adt

Can you elaborate?

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Heledd

Check out the deputy leader. Very pro women.

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Adam

Who exactly please? We need to know.

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Cadwgan

It's in the newspapers

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coldcomfort

Go and have a chat with some hunter gatherers. Then go to rural Africa and watch the women do all the agricultural work, plus looking after kids, cooking etc while the men do the important stuff of discussing the world

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Y Cymro

Sadly, we now live in an age of Trumpian politics, where extremist Reform UK candidates seem to believe that free speech is a licence to say and do anything, including being openly racist and misogynistic, without consequence. Sorry, but even free speech has limits. With freedom comes responsibility. Actions have consequences. It’s about time we put these bigots firmly back in their box, restoring decency and trust back into politics.

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algebra museums

Whilst I do feel that something really positive has been lost in the modern world due to parents being able to spend as much time raising their children, that option has been taken away from the vast majority of families, as we've evolved into an economy that's run by fewer and fewer companies who are locked in the blight of "eternal growth". It would be wonderful if children could come home and each day have time with either parent during the week, if there is more than one parent. Many employers suffer from an almost Dante-like hell of "terminal cost-cutting" to make already wealthy owners even wealthier at the cost of the people who are making them wealthy. Publicly owned companies have the legal obligation to make as much money as possible for their shareholders and therefore force the eternal growth fallacy as a reason to reduce value and employee well-being. The eternal growth fallacy is essentially self-destructive in that if we follow it to its conclusion, we inevitably end up with a single oligarch-style company dealing with a product from end to end and no governmental control or protection for the public, and there would certainly be concept of a parent spending time with their child because by then, the child would also be a part of that same oligarch-style company.

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Padi Phillips

That's called the inner contradictions of capitalism I believe, a monster, that if allowed free reign, will eat itself. I also think you mean privately owned (or maybe publicly listed) companies as 'publicly owned' actually means nationalised in UK terms. The problem is that the capitalist economic system is the only one we have, so in the absence of something more humane the only options are strict rules that ameliorate the worst excesses and make that system work for the many, and not the few. Between 1945 and 1980 such a system was in place, where even Conservative governments held to an economic consensus that taxed the rich heavily in order to ensure that inequality was kept in check and that there was opportunity for all with a robust welfare state and housing policies that kept housing affordable, whether in rented sector or for those buying their own home. (Let's not forget Nye Bevan's ideal of universal social housing.) Having read through the comments, I have seen very few comments from women, and of those, one or two seem to have swallowd the Kinder, Kuche, Kirche social mantra of Reform and many of the men commenting here are perhaps framing their arguments from a standpoint of women having to go out to work as something undesirable rather than as something a woman should be able to do as of right and as a free choice. My personal opinion is that we live in a very family unfriendly society that seems to regard children as an inconvenience. Whilst the birthrate is collapsing everywhere but maybe on the African continent, it certainly isn't helped by employment and child support policies that simply don't add up. I thnk the Nordic approach bears consideration, as do the childcare policies of the former German Democratic Republic.

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Brychan

The mother mortality rates during the hunter-gatherer epoch of the paleolithic was around 50% per pregnancy. This is due to humans being born with large skulls (ask a woman who's given birth), poor sanitation (disease) and nutritional deficiency (lack of food) during the term. For this reason the hut or cave was more of a death sentence for a woman rather than an evasion of community sustenance. Interesting that Reform think this was a golden era.

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Rob

Sadly, there are some women actually still do believe this, and right-wing movements such as Reform or MAGA in the US use that fact to launder their outdated ideas. “We’re not being sexist, these women are the silent majority” becomes an excuse to avoid tackling childcare costs and women’s economic independence.

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Guess Again

Speaking as a member of the male sex, this insecure little man does not speak for us all. Only the ones compensating for their own miserable shortcomings.

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Adam

They probably think that violence against said housewife is still acceptable. Lets keep reform supporters away from our Women and children though, it really isn't a safe mindset.

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Mawkernewek

It's quite likely that among some dinosaur species both parents were active in caring for offspring.

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Jess

I agree with him. We shouldn't let a minority of feminists cause most of us to have to work. If we weren't in the workplace our partners would be paid more and we'd have more time to care for others and build up local communities. The feminists are just running dogs for the capitalists here, it's all about pushing down the cost of labour. Some women have careers, most of us just work and it's not what we want to do. Think it through.

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Julia B

If it wasn't for feminists, you probably wouldn't be allowed to comment on here..... Think it through.

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Alan Measles

Have to disagree. I know a lot of women that have been blocked on this site simply for expressing an opinion, especially around women's rights, Self ID etc.

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Tucker

And for being openly transphobic, racist and particularly insulting to anyone who disagreed with them.

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Julia B

But not all women, though. My point is that without feminism, no woman would be allowed to voice an opinion on a public forum.

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Fi yn unig

I agree. They would get 'there there dear now go and get them pots washed' which (not even worth) 30p Lee actually said on a Cameo vid. Deformees really are all the same unless they're even worse and are defectee Restorees.

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Charlie

We're already struggling to pay for retirees so badly that we have to import labour now you want to cut the workforce in half. Paying men double doesn't mean they can do twice the work, it just means the work isn't done and the economy goes from bad to even worse.

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Padi Phillips

There is so much wrong with that comment. No one is saying, least of all 'feminists' (if I am to understand feminists correctly) that anyone should have to go out to work. Feminists have actually long pointed out that the unpaid work that women do within the home if a form of capitalist exploitation that has a huge economic value, and that women should have all the free choices that men have. Perhaps if we were to adopt a more work to live approach rather than the more common expectation of living to work, and promoted parenthood more as a shared responsibility along with state-provided (and funded) childcare that allows real choices to be made, we'd eventually create a far better and liveable society.

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Milo Scope

I assume he backs this view by supporting Universal Basic Income.

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O.R.

My wife currently has a full time job. She would prefer to stay at home to look after the kids. Do you think most women enjoy working? I think not. I have an average salary of £140k a year. I could not afford all the household bills + children's activities with my single salary - hence I am not giving her the option of leaving her job. Perhaps when I clear my mortgage she can remain at home.

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hdavies15

If you can't make ends meet on 140k even in these blighted times I think you ought to rethink your priorities. Those on 1/3 or even lower a 1/4 of your gross takings have a hard time because of where we are as a country. Your hard time is driven by your choices.

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Charlie

"I am not giving her the option" Presumably you are if she'd agree to have a smaller mansion without the private island.

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Tucker

On tonight's, things that have never happened we have O.R.

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Fi yn unig

'Not giving her the option'. That's her told then.

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Charlie

I'm a little worried she might be chained up in the basement.

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Walter Hunt

Equality of opportunity is more than just a social justice issue. Any society that fails to provide genuine equality of opportunity is failing to maximize its collective potential. The current Welsh Government has committed to closing gender, disability, and ethnicity pay gaps by 2050, but that’s a generation away. As birth rates decline across the developed world, we must ask: is parenthood (and I chose this word deliberately) being undervalued? Do we need to do more than just fund childcare? For most, nurturing the next generation is the single most significant contribution they will ever make.

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Fanny Hill

Is he also alluding to the women standing formReform in the Senedd?

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Nicola

Check out both guy’s chequered history at Companies House Compulsory strike off is almost a requirement to stand for Reform..

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