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Nigel Farage ‘not interested in Wales’, Starmer claims

By Molly Stubbs
Welsh Labour, the party in government in Wales, has banned Nation.Cymru from its conference

Sir Keir Starmer has said Reform leader Nigel Farage “isn’t interested in Wales” and has no viable plan for Port Talbot’s blast furnaces.

Speaking at the Welsh Labour conference in Llandudno, the Prime Minister described the Reform UK leader as a “wolf in Wall Street clothing”.

“When you ask him about Clacton, he thinks he’s running in the 2.10 at Ascot,” Sir Keir joked.

Mr Farage has said his party wants to restart Port Talbot’s blast furnaces but Sir Keir said the Reform leader has “no idea what he’s talking about”, when it comes to the furnaces, and has “no plan at all”.

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Arc furnace 

Port Talbot’s remaining blast furnaces were shut down in September, with a new electric arc furnace being built in their place.

Reform is looking to end Labour’s 26 years of domination at the Senedd elections in May next year.

Labour performed poorly in this year’s local elections in England, which saw Nigel Farage’s party win a swathe of council seats.

Taking aim at Mr Farage, Sir Keir said the Clacton MP is “a wolf in Wall Street clothing”.

“Reform claimed to be the party of patriotism while sucking up to Putin and abusing our armed forces online.

“They say they’re the party of workers while they vote against workers’ rights, intending to charge people to use the NHS and plan unfunded tax cuts for billionaires.”

Sir Keir also said any deal between the Tories, Reform UK and Plaid Cymru at next year’s key elections in Wales would amount to a “backroom stitch-up”.

The elections to the Senedd will use a proportional system for the first time, meaning coalitions are likely.

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'Chaos and divison' 

The Prime Minister said it would risk a “return to the chaos and division of the last decade” and risk rolling back the progress his party is starting to make.

It would be “working families left to pick up the bill”, he added.

“Whether that’s with Reform or with Plaid’s determination to cut Wales off from the rest of the country, with no plan to put Wales back together,” he said.

“I know that these are the parties that talk a big game, but who is actually delivering?”

Conservative Party leader Kemi Badenoch has not ruled out making deals with Plaid Cymru or Reform at the next Senedd election.

Farmers gathered outside the conference to protest ahead of Sir Keir’s speech, with about 20 tractors parked on the promenade in the north Wales resort town by late morning.

Fantasies

First Minister Eluned Morgan accused Nigel Farage of “peddling fantasies” about the future of Wales.

Next year’s key elections in Wales will be a “moment of reckoning”, she said.

“Reform are rising and across the country, people are asking big, serious questions about what kind of future they want for Wales,” Baroness Morgan told the conference.

“It’s time to stand up,” she added.

“While Nigel Farage is in Port Talbot peddling fantasies about sending people’s grandchildren down coal mines and reopening blast furnaces, we’re dealing with the reality that they left behind, the scars of decades of Tory neglect, the cost of industrial decline,” she said.

“We’re not romanticising the past. We’re cleaning it up.”

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31 comments

Neil Anderson

Nation.Cymru banned from the Welsh Labour conference? Wear that badge with pride, N.C!

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Fi yn unig

The truth: Nigel Farage ‘not interested in Wales’. The lie: Labour ARE interested in Wales. Call me petty if you wish and I don’t expect him to engage with Welsh names and words if he is not able to. This conference was in Llandudno. Keir Starmer should have dropped in, at least once each, the terms ‘Cymru’ and ‘Ynys Mon’. For the love of God, even the former Tory (therefore anti Welsh MP for Ynys Mon) did that so nothing to see here. A Labour Party accepting that the 250 year party of apathetic surety is over and even now, 10 months from annihilation here, they are still preaching how only THEY can be the best choice for US. They have left us with a binary choice. Save Cymru (Plaid) or choose to destroy it (Reform). He and they, couldn’t even care less.

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Fi yn unig

Hasn’t Eluned Morgan had to apologise to Martin Shipton and NC in general for a previous exclusion? What will she say this time? Will it be ‘we can’t do anything. We are under Westminster orders’? Ah, OUT YOU GO!

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Amir

It is their loss. I think as a news platform for Wales with a very balanced and eagle eye view of what is going on in Wales and Welsh folk, nation.cymru has its finger on the pulse. Most likely, nothing much will happen in the conference other than a few tears and hugs of commiseration.

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Fi yn unig

Yes. They know they are cooked here. Like a terrified Tory defecting to Reform, Labour members of our Parliament and supporters need to move to the future and pick up their application pack to join Plaid - NOW!

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Rob

It kind of reminds me of the mistake Kamala Harris made before the US election when she refused to share a platform with Joe Rogan. This Resulted in her failure to reach out to millions of undecided voters. The Welsh media may be weak but banning Nation Cymru may be a strategic blunder. Not only does it demonstrates Labour's poor communication strategy but also their arrogance. This will only play into the hands of Plaid Cymru, and possibly (unfortunately) Reform.

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Fi yn unig

Banning Nation.Cymru. This was the day when Labour should know they join Reform, Tories, Lib Dem or ANY party or debt ridden LTD company masquerading as one pushing the Unionist status quo, NOT TO KNOCK MY DOOR LOOKING FOR A VOTE unless they can explain to me how they propose to GET WITH THE PROGRAMME! Annibyniaeth.

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FrankC

Pathetic behaviour from Welsh Labour. Is this the "Red Welsh Way" in action?🤔

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Tucker

They aren't red in any shape or form. They are neoliberal conmen masquerading as Labour.

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Chris Hale

I think banning you from the conference is their loss, and smacks of the behaviour of Starmer’s new best friend, Donald Trump. i was amused that WOL headlined their report of his speech as warning that Farage is treating the Welsh people as fools. Comments were turned off on that and many other articles. i was going to point out that being treated as fools has been increasingly our experience of the Labour Party, so I will do it here. Keep up your good work in providing a forum for discussion across the diverse viewpoints of our country. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

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Catherine Hodgkinson

I am shocked to learn that Nations.Cymru is banned by the Labour Party. Are you being singled out or are lots of others being treated similarly? I find it very concerning.

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Adrian

You wouldn’t be banned from the Reform conference. .

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Tucker

I very much doubt Nige would want any probing questions about actual policy in regards to Wales asked by representatives of Nation.cymru.

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Amir

Does he have any actual policy other no forcing people in Wales to learn Welsh?

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Adrian

No need to doubt, or speculate, just ask.

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Amir

If we have to ask, then he is not interested. Serious politicians who respect the electorate and value the country come forward and present their ideas.

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Tucker

OK. Name me a policy by your favourite ex banker that his party will introduce in Wales that soley benefits Welsh people.

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Adrian

Drop the the obsession with school children learning a bronze-age language, and get their reading, writing and arithmetic up to scratch.

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Tucker

And there it is. Proof of your xenophobic attitude towards the Welsh speakers.

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Drew Anderson

Copy "benefits of bilingualism in early childhood" into a search bar. You probably won't like the results.

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Amir

Welsh school standards for numeracy and literacy are very good. Historically English language most likely older then Welsh. Any particular reason you dislike the Welsh language? Are you being forced to learn the language?

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Howie

Gething must have been sending out the press invites? Starmer is beyond the pale, he can't get the Trump tariffs removed off TATA products despite saying he has a great deal.

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Dai Ponty

Yes that is true the smiling viper Farage and Reform has no interest in Wales just like the Tories and Labour those intending to vote Reform have to take a spelling test if they cannot pass it not allowed to vote

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Welshman28

If you listened to Starmers so-called speech two things would have happened you’d realised that he was talking pure rubbish even contradicting himself on Reform spurting lies about them . He for a so-called Prime Minister made it clear he has no brain. His lies were unbelievable he spurted them out with every sentence. This was an old speech written by some script writer who does not have a clue. I’m not a reform follower but his words will surely bury Welsh Labour with the lies. Jo Stevens followed and she lied even more than he did.

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Dr John Ball

Welsh Labour isn't interested either.

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Undecided

It is of course a disgrace that NC is banned; but hardly a surprise given that Transport House is stuffed with Gething acolytes. On the other hand, there is nothing worth listening to there anyway. Starmer does so many u turns he probably doesn’t know which way he is facing today and the Baroness only believes what she was told by last person she spoke to.

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Barry Soetero

Farage may not interested in Wales but Wales is interested in Farage as we will all soon find out. Also, the constant defamation and slagging off by the media has a reverse effect, as we saw with Trump in the USA , other political parties must do better

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Tucker

It's ok he excluded anyone left of Thatcher from the main Labour conferences too. This party, Nu New Labour 0.2 is not interested in anything else than implementing more of the same neoliberalism this country has been subjected to for decades. The supposes climb down in the benefits saga only kicks the can down the road. Anyone who currently claims PIP and has to renew their claim on or after the 2026 deadline will probably end up being refused under the new bill's proposals. The Chancellor's statement that she will freeze income tax thresholds is a blatant attempt to pit those on lower incomes against those who are forced to claim benefits due to being disabled or having poor health. The fact that Kid Starver has made his speech more about what Reform might do to Wales. As opposed to what Labour will do for Wales, speaks volumes. We only have to back to last week, when the treasury spokesman said we in Wales should be grateful for the money we receive for rail infrastructure improvements. To see the contempt that they have for us as a nation. Voting for any of these unionist parties will not anyone on our country any good. It's just going to be more of the same for us. Reform claim they'll relight blast furnaces in Port Talbot. Which is an impossible task once they've shut down. To their leaders attacks on our language targets. Show the snake oil sales man up for what he is. The only reason his party hasn't yet said they want to abolish the Senned is so they can grab seats there. Yet most of their supporters and some party members and councillors all attack the institution and want it abolished. It's the same with the tories and I'm sure this current crop of Nu New Labour 0.2 all say the same privately. So we in Wales have a choice vote for English centric parties or vote for our own country's best interests.

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Y Cymro

We all know Reform UK are not interested in Wales. Only a fool would believe that. All Farage wants is to use and abuse the Welsh electorate. But for Keir Starmer and his complicit Corgi Eluned Morgan to make that claim with his record in office made me laugh out loud. Is this the same UK Labour party who has ignored Welsh Government numerous requests for further devolution. Slighted Wales with no rail infrastructure consequential. Gave Wales £450 million over a 10 year period compared to the English North £6.5 billion and expected is to be grateful. And their welfare cuts have terrorised the working poor disabled and unemployed more so here than anywhere else. Welsh & UK Labour are so arrogant they still think with their dire record in office that the obedient Welsh will still vote for a party that's effectively spat in our faces. Deluded Eluned Morgan talks tough but her yelp is worse than her bite. She can cuddle up to Keir Starmer in Llandudno all she likes. Think the polls will move back into her & their favour with UK Labour's policy u-turns. But it's too late. You record in office is a poor one and you are tainted by association. The only party fighting for Wales interests in Cardiff and London are Paid Cymru not Welsh Labour or their Westminster counterparts Wales Labour MPs. It's Plaid Cymru who are the only party that can become Welsh Government next May. Forget Darren Millar he's merely a Tory troll. Welsh Labour face oblivion. The Liberal Democrats nowhere. Reform UK's Nigel Farage admitted he has no interest in becoming Senedd member therefore Wales, although said he would front their campaign appearing in debates but would install a leader after the ejection. Highly insulting. Would he do similar at Westminster. No. In reality this should not be allowed. A party leader should get appointed by Farage. Either he's the leader in Wales or not. Farage must put up or shut up. The Welsh Government missed an open goal here. They've had plenty of time to create legislation in the Senedd , put it to a vote, stipulating under Welsh law that any party running for office in next year's Senedd election's leader must stand as a candidate not use a proxy. Conservative leader Kemi Badenoch is not leading the Welsh Conservatives Senedd campaign. Darren Millar is. He is the leader of his party in Wales. I thought Welsh Labour would have closed that loophole used and abused by that little England Conservative crook Neil Hamilton, who in 2016 was a elected for Ukip under the list system in Carmarthenshire, refused to move to his constituency, whilst a resident of Wiltshire, England. And we could have a similar situation where Nigel Farage campaigns , wins seats , then afterwards parachutes in a leader in Wales not scrutinized by the voters. Totally undemocratic. This alone should open voters eyes.

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Owain Morgan

I agreed with Starmer's assertions until he suggested Plaid Cymru would work with Fascists, or for that matter Tories. Correct me if I'm wrong, didn't Plaid rule out working with the Tories before the last Senedd Election? Plaid will NEVER do deals with Fascists like so called Reform. So, I'm pretty sure that what Starmer said is not just a lie, but libel.

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Karl

First thing Starmer has said that isn't utter crap for ages. Labour are still Reform wannabee's and really a crap government that allows the fascists to rise. We have had a reform fascist in Pontyrpidd 2 weeks in a row dishing out crap. Where are the traditional parties. Local Labour MP probably in Israel, as she is pathetic.

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Welsh Labour isn't interested either.

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