Tue, 11th August Cardiff 26°
Nation.Cymru wordmark
Advertisement

News

Councillors consider legal challenge over mosque decision

By Mark Mansfield
Old Abergavenny Library vandalised - Image: LDRS

Twm Owen, local democracy reporter

Three councillors who failed in a bid to overturn a decision paving the way for a county’s first mosque could launch a legal challenge.

The two Conservative county councillors and one independent, as well as a local resident, are threatening to seek a judicial review of the decision to lease a disused former library to the Monmouthshire Muslim Community Association who intend using the 120-year-old grade II-listed building as community centre and mosque.

Councillors Louise Brown, Rachel Buckler and independent Simon Howarth, along with local resident John Hardwick, are being supported by the Christian Legal Centre after contacting advocacy body Christian Concern.

The non-profit Christian Concern said the four have formally notified Monmouthshire County Council they intend seeking a judicial review unless the council withdraws the 30-year lease and initiates, what it calls, “a new, transparent tender process”.

[mid-content-banner]

Questions

A statement issued by Christian Concern details questions over the £6,000 a year lease which were answered when a council committee considered the “call in” the three had requested of the Labour-led cabinet’s decision to grant the lease.

It has also quoted Andrea Williams, chief executive of the Christian Legal Centre, who said: “This case raises serious questions about transparency, fairness, and the proper use of public assets. The people of Abergavenny deserve to be heard, and their concerns must not be brushed aside. We will stand with these councillors as they urge the council to be democratically accountability and to abide by the rule of law.”

According to the statement the only issue raised in the pre-action letter, signalling their intent to pursue a legal challenge, that wasn’t considered during the call in review are “concerns over religious impartiality”.

Cllr Brown, who represents Shirenewton near Chepstow, is quoted as saying: “Council taxpayers need to know that the council is adhering to its values of openness, transparency and fairness in its use of limited council resources and not operating in a hidden unaccountable secretive way.”

[lower-mid-content-banner

Dissatisfied

Devauden member Cllr Buckler told the Local Democracy Reporting Service she and her colleagues were dissatisfied with how concerns were addressed during the call in, which included part of a meeting being held in confidential session.

Cllr Buckler described the Christian Legal Centre as a “very good organisation” and “resourced” and that it “makes sense to collaborate with them” but said the challenge isn’t a religious issue.

She said: “This is not about Christianity it is about fairness and a transparent process.”

She added: “Our whole point is no organisation should be treated with any more favour than any other. It is not about a Christian agenda it’s about the fact a lease was awarded, as far as we can see, for a peppercorn rent for 30 years for an incredibly important civic building that was given to the people by the Carnegie Trust in 1905.”

'Muddled'

Reverend Gareth Wilde, a retired Baptist minister and a Labour member of Abergavenny Town Council, who spoke in favour of granting the lease to the Muslim Community Association at the county council’s call in meeting in June, said he found it “surprising” the challenge was being supported by a body that describes itself as advocating for Christians.

He said: “It seems more like a governance or spending issue. It does seem a little bit muddled.”

Rev Wilde, who said he was speaking in a personal capacity, said he’d given the historical and Christian arguments for why the lease should be granted when he addressed the committee.

He said: “The bottom line is Abergavenny has got a rich history of non-conformism dating right back to the 17th century when Christians in Abergavenny fought peacefully for religious freedom. That’s Baptists, Congregationalists, Quaker or other chapels. My feeling is the Monmouthshire Muslim Community Association are only asking to be treated the same.”

Rev Wilde added he also believed the Muslim association should be given a |”priority” as they currently do not have a dedicated place of worship, having to rent the Catholic church hall.

“I preach in a number of churches locally and I’ve not heard any negative views from anybody in those churches or chapels,” added Rev Wilde.

Cabinet

The call in committee agreed the lease decision should be sent back to the cabinet, which stood by its original decision to award the lease to the community association that will also be responsible for repairs and maintenance. The cabinet member responsible, Ben Callard, described that as a “huge commitment” that made the lease unattractive to businesses.

The committee was told no planning permission was required as places of worship and libraries are in the same use class while the tender process, which ran for four weeks in December 2024, was also defended as having prompted a number of competitive bids and the council said there was no need for an independent valuation as the authority had the capacity to do so itself.

In the build up to the call in meeting the former library was vandalised with anti-Muslim messages and ‘No Masjid” sprayed on one of its walls and crosses beside the doors along with the word ‘no’. Masjid is Arabic for place of worship or mosque.

The library, built for £4,000 and funded by the Carnegie Foundation established by Scottish-American industrialist and philanthropist Andrew Carnegie, closed in 2015 when the service transferred to the town hall.

According to Christian Concern the council has until Friday, September 19 to respond to the letter before any formal legal proceedings begin.

A statement from the council said: "Monmouthshire County Council confirms that it has received a pre-action protocol letter and will respond in due course. The Council cannot provide further comment in relation to an on-going legal matter."

For the price of a cup of coffee a month you can help us create an independent, not-for-profit, national news service for the people of Wales, by the people of Wales.

Get more trusted Welsh news

Choose Nation.Cymru as a preferred source in Google News to see more of our journalism.

Choose Nation.Cymru as a preferred source in Google News

17 comments

Johnny

Christian Concern does not represent Mainstream Christianity.They are a Right Wing Evangelical Fundamentalist group that dislikes anything that doesn't fit their narrative.

Reply
Fanny Hill

Religious bigotry masquerading as concern for the proper use of public assets. If it was an Evangelical Christian outfit, you probably wouldn’t hear a peep out of them.

Reply
Johnny

I never implied that all Evangelicals are bad people,I know very many genuine such people. Yet Christian Concern parrots the Evangelical Right Wing in the USA. They are cut from the same cloth as the Late Pat Robertson and John "I Love Israel" Hagee.

Reply
Ian

I would change into a wellness centre, i have just done invested in barry south wales setting up a veteran friend which helping the community, our blue light services, veteran,mental health who just looking to talk, which if they fancy contrast therapy finnish sauna infrared sauna and ice Plunges which would benefit locally.have a look its called the Health Hwb

Reply
Zarah Daniel

The problem with groups like that is that they spread division. They make Muslims think that Christians hate them when actually it's just these groups of nutters who hate them, and frankly, they pretty much hate everyone who isn't part of their little group - often including other Christians that they don't believe are Christian enough!!! Extremists are getting far too confident in this country and they are starting to think that their filthy ideology is mainstream and what "most people really think but are too afraid to say". People need to be more open, more vocal, and much more clear in saying, "No, I don't agree with hating everyone who is different from me", "Yes, I do think our schools and hospitals are overstretched but I'm not blaming immigrants for that - I'm blaming years of bad governance". "Yes, I am very proud to be Welsh and one of the things I am most proud of is our reputation for friendliness and kindness to others. I am proud of our flag. I know that it has been with our soldiers when they acted as peacekeeping forces with the UN in the Balkans. It was with them when they tried to protect people in Afghanistan from the Taliban. Longer ago, it was there when they fought against the fascists in Italy and the Nazis, and to see people who support such an ideology think they can claim the flag as theirs makes me sick to my guts." "Saying "I love my country" is not an excuse for hating everyone else". We really need to start showing a policy of 0 tolerance to extremists, hate speech, and people trying to manipulate real people's issues into being hate issues.

Reply
David J

Well said!

Reply
Amir

Christians versus Muslims. And the Muslims are the losers.

Reply
Fanny Hill

We’re all equal in the eyes of God, unfortunately there are those who think they’re more equal than others.

Reply
Mab Meirion

Apparently there are 'The Crusades' board games on the market, a bit of research I would not have engaged in were it not for your comment Amir... I wish you well...

Reply
Zarah Daniel

Not yet. Keep up hope. These challengers are right-wing nutters and, as long as the lease granted was all legal and above board, they won't get their way and the judge will tell them to get lost. Personally, I think the Muslims will win this battle. Don't give up.

Reply
John Ellis

When I lived for a few years in Abergavenny in time gone by - rather more than fifty years ago now! - I doubt whether any sort of Muslim venture would have been feasible there, given that in those days the town and its surrounding areas had virtually no ethnic minority population. But by now it might well be that the Abergavenny area has changed, because certainly other places that I know have certainly done so. If the town's old library is now redundant in terms of its original purpose, it might as well be used for something. Would these objectors prefer to see it gradually deteriorate and become derelict? Hardly realistic in these financially straitened days to expect the county council to keep it in good repair if the building isn't being used for anything at all.

Reply
Zarah Daniel

I'm afraid that these sort of people really would rather that the building rot than let Muslims use it - that's what being filled with hate teaches you sadly :-( Well hopefully their legal challenge costs them lots of money, and the council gets to claim it's costs back on the grounds that it's certainly a nuisance claim. And then hopefully the Mosque and community centre can go ahead because community is important and I too hate to see lovely buildings go derelict for no reason. :-)

Reply
John Ellis

Maybe Yaxley-Lennon could point them towards a willing funder, given that he appears to have secured ample such support for himself from across the pond?!

Reply
Dafydd

I wonder if any of these Christian Concern people ever visit 'Indian' resteraunts? There is a major dissconnect amongst many people who love a good curry but the day after love to berate muslims, presumably ignorant of the fact that the very people who cook their favourite dishes are themselves probably muslim.

Reply
Johnny

Or even visit loved ones in hospital who have been treated by Muslim doctors. I have known people who dislike Muslims yet at the same time They are only too happy to visit their local Muslim shopkeeper to buy batteries on Christmas Day when their gifts say batteries not supplied.

Reply
Garycymru

Ah, the Shirenewton mafia poke their heads up again. At least it makes a change from them slating the Welsh language and being openly racist towards us.

Reply
David Geay

Dr Khalil, Dr Pervez, Dr Asif - and in homage to Dylan Thomas Dr Khan 1 and Dr Khan 2. Those are the names of the doctors who - along with other people from many places and backgrounds, saved my life when I was given chemotherapy for my cancer. I rather think diversity trumps prejudice. Dave Gray

Reply

Leave a reply

Replying to Johnny Cancel

Or even visit loved ones in hospital who have been treated by Muslim doctors. I have known people who dislike Muslims yet at the same time They are only too happy to visit their local Muslim shopkeeper to buy batteries on Christmas Day whe...

Comments are reviewed before they appear.