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Eisteddfod under fire after rapper prevented from performing over Welsh language policy

By David Owens
Sage Todz picture by FAW

A Welsh musician has said he won't be performing at this years' National Eisteddfod after being told there was too much English in his songs.

Rapper Sage Todz, who has been credited with spreading the use of the Welsh language and opening it up to new audiences, posted a Tweet in which he announced he would not be performing at the Eisteddfod's music festival Maes B or the Eisteddfod itself this year due to the organisation's Welsh language policy.

He posted: 'For anyone wondering, I won't be performing at Maes B or Eisteddfod this year due to the Welsh language policy they have in place.
*Essentially there's too much English in my songs'

For anyone wondering, I won't be performing at Maes B or Eisteddfod this year due to the Welsh language policy they have in place.
*Essentially there's too much English in my songs 🤷🏾‍♂️

— Sage Todz (@SageTodz) June 8, 2023

Since posting the tweet the musician who came to prominence last year with his reworked version of Dafydd Iwan's Yma o Hyd in conjunction with the Football Association of Wales, has been inundated with support from users of the social media platform, who were critical of the Eisteddfod's decision.

Michael Richards wrote: 'Sage is on the front line of taking Cymraeg to new people and places. This is hugely shortsighted from the Eisteddfod.'

Lauren✜⁷ said: 'How are we supposed to get to 1mil Welsh speakers when the Eisteddfod do stuff like this... If I was a welsh learner I'd be so discouraged to take part.'

Milo Davis added: 'Absolutely ridiculous man, you were my introduction into Welsh language music. Killing off the bridge builders.'

Another site user posted: Painfully short-sighted from the festival organisers. You've done so much to help legitimise Welsh-language music that isn't jangly guitar indie angst but apparently celebrating the depth and breadth of Welsh music is just lip service to them.'

However, one Twitter user Byron Holmes challenged the rapper over his stance. He wrote: 'Then the remedy lies with you. Abide by the rules, adjust your repertoire.'

In response Sage Todz replied: 'I'm not protesting, simply letting people know why I won't be there. My songs are finished products, not subject to change.'

Sage Todz

The National Eisteddfod have issued a response in which they state they had extensive discussions with the rapper, offering him several opportunities to perform in Welsh at this year's Eisteddfod, to be held in Boduan in August.

A spokesperson said: “Singing bilingually and in English are integral to Sage Todz's principles, just as our language rule is integral to us as a festival and organisation. He was offered several opportunities to perform in Welsh at this year's Eisteddfod, including taking a leading role in a major event to close the festival which was a commission to create new songs in Welsh.

“We discussed our language rule at length with Sage Todz, and we respect the fact that he is a bilingual artist, and that his decision is to adhere to his principles and continue to create bilingual and English music.”

The last time a similar incident occurred was back in the '90s when Super Furry Animals played a controversial gig at the National Eisteddfod in Llandeilo in 1996.

When told they couldn't sing in English and that only Welsh could be spoken on stage, the band printed the lyrics for the audience and whistled the melodies while they performed.

Speaking last year about the importance of Welsh culture and his use of the Welsh language, Sage Todz said: “Welsh culture means a lot to me as an artist. I obviously speak Welsh and do so in my day-to-day life, so I feel it is only natural for me to share our language in the music I make.

“I’m really glad to continue to bring the Welsh language into a more modern context and show that Cymraeg can translate to a different vibe of music from what it is used to being applied to.”

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42 comments

Dewi

Yes, it's a shame. Yes, it's a ridiculous situation. The Eisteddfod is the only large monolingual Welsh language festival in the world. Some people want to introduce the English language. We understand why. We understand the frustration. Coldplay seemed to use a bit of Welsh this week. Maybe they should play the Eisteddfod too? There's a line. Simples.

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Gaynor

The eisteddfod have a Welsh lang policy. Everybody knows this., he is not being excluded as he is a Welsh speaker. If he is a decent performer he can translate after all he is a stryd poet . So rather than creating about nothing get creating about something in Welsh with your matez ...see if I can do it .....gelli di . And considering he has performed with Dafydd you would think he would have been inspired to perform yn y Gymraeg efallai?

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Diawl Blin

The rule is the rule. Twas ever thus, and hopefully will always be. Suck it up.

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David Harking

The Eisteddfod is a celebration of the Welsh language. How about not demonising the organisation / creating headlines / an us and them situation and try writing in Cymraeg?

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Riki

100% agree with the policy. The English language already helps you perform virtually anywhere. Whereas British does not! Yet again, we see the dominant language, and those who speak it act like it’s the victim of a sustained attack against it. Where in fact it’s the reverse.

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hdavies15

Anglo Brits love a spot of victimhood as it fits in with their assimilation plans for us minority tribes. Shame that Sage hasn't yet spotted this and stepped further into struggle to defend and promote our minority, especially as he's got a heritage that should enable him to grasp the fundamentals of the situation.

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Riki

Indeed, I had responded to you before where I mentioned it’s the same in Korea and their love for Anglos, while not realising their relations with Japan are similar to those of England and Wales. But for some reason it wasn’t acceptable.

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Bachelor o Lerpwl

Why did they hold the National in Liverpool?

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CapM

Might be because- There were a lot of ex-pat Cymry living there making it a viable option as a venue. Financial support from ex-pat community and/or Liverpool city. Influence by those with Liverpool connections within Eisteddfod organisation. An ambition to show off/legitimise Welsh culture outside Cymru. Lack of alternative venue in Cymru. The last time the Eisteddfod was held in Liverpool was 1929 so whatever the reasons were then conditions and considerations have been different for many decades.

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Wrexhamian

Plus, a lot of Liverpool people were, and still are, partly of Welsh heritage.

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Mab Meirion

The 'Welsh' built Liverpool...

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Dark Mrakeford

His music is valid and contributes to the wider welsh music scene, but with that said where should the line be drawn? It has to be drawn somewhere otherwise it'll be turned into just another festival, with a token amount of Welsh used in order to participate in the main events.

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Y Cymro

Regarding Rapper Sage Todz not being able to perform at the National Eisteddfod. Although I'm sympathetic with his plight, the Eisteddfod although open to all whatever language you speak, is after all a festival that celebrates the Welsh language & culture. I only wish this could have been dealt better by organisers. May I suggest he (Todz) use another avenue to spread his positive message more further afield? Perhaps he could appear at the International Eisteddfod in Llangollen where all languages & cultures are celebrated, including English, where he could perform and connect with the youth of the world. At least we in Wales respect all languages & cultures. This cannot be said of England, Palace of Westminster and House of Lords who in 2023 still enforce the Welsh language ban under threat of exclusion to those who dare to use Wales & Britain's first language.

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Dai Rob

He’ll be at Tafwyl, can’t wait to see him, he’s a great rappper. Just like when the Eisteddfod told the welsh football team to do one, a few years back!

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Ieaun iesu

Sorry, he's not great but sub par - and only came on the scene when he released a trap-rap that was partly in Cymraeg [where he had one verse... one...]. He's just boosting his profile and not realising he's shooting himself in the foot for acting so entitled, like Gemma Collins - both of them can get in the sea for all I care. How dare he bring the Eisteddfod into disrupte for his own clout chasing, what an English thing to do.

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Ifangoch

According to the article there were extensive discussions between the artist and the organisers and several alternatives were offered however the artist was not prepared to compromise. Short of abandoning the Welsh language policy, which is the whole ethos of the Eisteddfod, I fail to see what else the organisers could have done to accommodate the artist.

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Trefaldwyn

I have mass respect for him but Eisteddfod did the right desicions. It's a Welsh-language festival for a reason.

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Paddy

Henry VIII made English the sole official language, and banned people from public office if they did not speak English. Welsh was specifically excluded by law.

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Riki

Yes, isn’t it Convenient how they often forget or ignore how English originally got its footing. It came about by the destruction of Three other languages. British (Welsh), Scots Gaelic and Irish. Every other nation after these chose to adopt English. These original 3 were forced!

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Rhufawn Jones

I agree with the decision. But, I wonder if there is a tiny hint of hypocrisy here, as novels have won main prizes in the National Eisteddfod despite including English dialogue. Such was the case with the Daniel Owen prize last year, with one of the adjudicators reluctant to award the prize due to "gormod o ddefnydd o Saesneg."

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Riki

Disagree, what does the language harm is how it’s pointlessly taught while everything surrounding the children learning it is in English. If people really cared for the language, they’d do their best to limit English influence, Atleast until the language has returned to 50+% speaking it.

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CJPh

Uh huh. Let's demote the status of the language in one of only 2 major events that have it as prime to... save the language. We're quickly becoming a 'dwi'n hoffi coffi', 'Popperttee Ping' (fnah fnah fnah, them silly taffs) of a nation. Languages are usually considered in 1 of 2 ways - the more Anglo-centric utilitarian view (purely as a means of communication) or the cultural/aesthetic view (as something that transcends mere explanatory function). Cymraeg has typically fallen into the latter category but can, of course, be used to communicate pretty much anything. It just isn't as expansive as English. We will see our language morph and develop as it has for thousands of years, as all languages have. But care must be taken when the more utilitarian view is coupled with the fact that we live in an Americanised culture and right next door to the home of the world's lingua franca. Too much in the way of standard dropping, too much tip-toeing around advocating for improvement, too many loan-words and Cymraeg-ifying English words (eg 'eniwei'') and the language devolves into a patois or pidgin, then it's gone (not that there is anything wrong with patois languages or pidgin dialects per se, but the range of expression is greatly limited).

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Mawkernewek

I think its a shame, but I can see the Eisteddfod's point, there's a potential for a slippery slope, where you allow bilingual songs and then eventually you could get songs entirely in English with a token word or two of Cymraeg.

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Ifangoch

Rapper under fire after refusing to recognise Eisteddfod Welsh language policy - there, fixed it for you.

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John Jones

I went for a teaching job on Anglesey . The bi- lingual school asked me to teach the science lesson through the medium of English of which I was quite happy to do . But when it came to the interview stage with the headmaster and governors and other members of the interview panel they refused to speak to me in English , after I stated I would feel more comfortable in conducting myself through the medium of English . My Welsh ability is about a Level 3 I can read and write as well in Welsh to a Level 3 . The school knew this before hand . So the interviewer spoke in Welsh and I translated it into English in real time and I answered the questions . This is unbelievable ..but true !! I was kept waiting for 4 5 minutes before being called in for interview . Plus that evening the school called me and told me through the medium of Welsh, afer me having asked them to tell me the outcome through the medium of English refused . Anyhow I was told I was unsuccesful . This is story is absolutely true . The interview at this particular school on Anglesey - North Wales happened at just before Christmas . My mother was from Liverpool and an evacuee from the Second World War , she resided on Anglesey till after the war , after returning home to a worn torn Liverpool . My father was Welsh and he had met my mother in school during the war time years in school on the island . My father had kep in touch with my mother . My father whilst carrying out his national service at RAF West Kirby rekindled his relationship with my mother . My father and mother returned to Anglesey during the sixties , my mother would often tell me that it was tough . My fathers first language was Welsh . It's legal racism through and through . I have flown the flag for Wales Globally . I can speak Welsh up to a level 3 , I had to leave Wales for work during the Thatcher years and retuned when work was available . I think the Welsh Assembly should should put a stop to this, Anglesey and some areas in North Wales are notorious . If I was a celebrity star then everyone who put me down would soon embrace me , it's so wrong . I hope to god there is never a war, because we as a United Kingdon would have to communicate with eath other . I'm proud to be Welsh and I'm all for keeping the language, heritage and culture, but this legal racism attitude is not going to help matters . If you think what happened to me in the job interiew at the school on Anglesey was unfair and rude, unjust please give me your support as I'm in the process of confronting the Director of Education Anglesey County . I need to see him to put this matter right..... oh !! may I add that I was born on Anglesey, but still this no excuse to treat anyone like this . Nid oes unrhyw esgus dros fod yn anghwrtais ac anghyfiawn.......There is no excuse for being rude and unjust I support Sage all the way this legal racism has to stop !!

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Cynon Mon

So despite your level 3 Welsh you feel marginalised and cite your Welsh DNA mix to justify your ire, what about the children you would have been teaching ? It is fair to say some would be Welsh 1st language, would you have been able to support those children fully through the medium of Welsh or would you have to defer to another teacheror revert to English for your benefit but not theirs ? The racism question arises not in your favour at all, rather the reverse towards Children in a Welsh speaking community not being able to receive education and pastoral support in their 1st language.

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Ieaun iesu

You show your bias by calling our Parliament an Assembly. England is that way >>>

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Gaynor

What' prescription is he on?

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Riki

A cult? Celebrating one’s culture with song and poetry! Yeah, sounds really occult like that. Meanwhile we have millions upon millions of people rapped with despair over the passing of a Queen they never met, and a queen who would take your last piece of bread if she could. That’s far more cult like.

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Ellis Evans

I detect more than a hint of exceptionalism on his part.

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Maureen Wang'ati

Now that's what I call a missed opportunity to promote the Welsh language. My African husband teaches Welsh in college in Wales and hes a gifted rapper too. This musician is trying to help non Welsh speakers understand the meaning of his songs by introducing English words which is more widely spoken and interjecting it with mostly Welsh. I a non Welsh speaker understood and appreciated the message of his song AND loved to listen to the Welsh language rapped so beautifully in this song. SAD he won't perform.

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CapM

I'm not familiar with Sage Todz's work but from how you describe it sounds like a good way of introducing and promoting Welsh to those who don't speak the language. However the audience at the Eisteddfod is at the very least familiar with the Welsh language and are positive about it. So a performance by an artist including a bit of Welsh in it to introduce and promote the language isn't really necessary.

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Susannah Avonside

The Eisteddfod Genedlaethol has had a Cymraeg only rule for participants since the 1950s in recognition of the marginalised status of Cymraeg. It's the same rule for everyone, and whilst there might be something laudible in singing bilingual songs, those who are serious about learning Cymraeg, as I was in the mid 1980s, will have no difficulty in sitting down with a song's lyrics and laboriously translating them with the help of a dictionary - or. given the existence of the internet, using Google Translate or one of the plethora of other machine translation applications available online.

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Ieaun iesu

Well Sage Todz - thats one way to lose yourself a fan. I knew you were clout chasing when you did a rap in Cymraeg, now I just know you're after Welsh language crowd clout: you just burned all your bridges. Da iawn twp.

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Ieaun iesu

Sorry David Davies, but how would you know having never been to an Eisteddfod?

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Harry Hayfield

When it was announced that Ceredigion was to host the Eisteddfod in 2020, I was overjoyed and wanted to help as much as I could, however when I arrived at the first community meeting and was told that as the Eisteddfod was a Welsh language only area, all conversations would be through the medium of Welsh to which I said, very politely, "That's not fair, I cannot speak a word of Welsh through being neurodivergent, that policy says "Thank you for living in Wales, we'll take your money but will not recognise you!" and makes me think is that why people outside Wales believe they will not get a warm welcome from Welsh areas. To paraphrase Henry Higgins "I WANT to attend an Eisteddfod, I NEED to attend an Eisteddfod" and this policy makes me feel as if I am not wanted.

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CapM

If the learning of a second language is problematic for you then perhaps explore ways to immerse yourself in things Welsh that do not need you to have the ability to speak the Welsh language. There are plenty of opportunities for this and it would hopefully make you feel wanted and just as important not pressurise others to stop working in Welsh in order to accommodate you.

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Diawl Blin

It's all about you, isn't it Harry?

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Paul ap Ioan

How did you expect to "help as much as I could" for a Welsh language festival if you don't even speak Welsh! I learned Welsh as an adult and went to a meeting in Llangadog about the recent Urdd Eisteddfod in Llandovery. I expected the meeting to be conducted in Welsh and engaged in the conversation in Welsh, because that is what it is about. The language is not a special performance to celebrate our culture, it is a living language we use at home, on the street, in church, in the pub and the chippy. Everywhere, achos ydyn ni'n byw yn ni'n byw yng Nghymru.

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Paul ap Ioan

Ffon twp! Sorri am y typo ydyn ni'n byw yng Nghymru :)

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Susannah Avonside

You seem to be both fluent and articulate in English so your claim that being neurodivergent prevents you learning another language seems to me a little far fetched. The fact that you are so articulate is actually more likely to put you at a disadvantage when learning Cymraeg (and I know what I'm talking about). Many people seriously underestimate exactly how much there is in learning a language, but fortunately achieving a basic conversational level isn't too hard, and shouldn't take more than a few months of fairly intense lessons and practice out in the community. I suspect that had you attained that basic level of conversational fluency the local Eisteddfod group would have been more than happy to have accepted your help, and as a result of the experience your ability and fluency would have really been boosted. It may have seemed harsh, but the Eisteddfod is a Welsh language festival, the only one where Welsh has predominance, so naturally enough, the local groups set up to organise for it will themselves be Welsh speaking. Do you think that if you lived in a village in France that they'd let you help out on the local fete committee if you didn't speak French? At least in Ceredigion you still (just about) have the opportunity to take advantage of immersion in the language - by far the best way to learn, once very basic fluency is established.

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