Yes Cymru propose alternative crests for WRU that ditch the three feathers

I used to love wearing my Wales rugby shirts until I found out what those feathers represent. Not buying a Welsh rugby top until they change it so i'll just stick to the footy shirt which doesn't represent everything I am opposed to.

Telyn, diolch!

And about time too! Well done Yes Cymru 👏

Hen amser cael gwared ar y ddelwedd ffiaidd imperialaidd Brydeinig

It's an odd one this, it wasn't until much later in life that I understood what the the feathers meant after seeing it be used by an english cricket team. Without doubt it should be changed, I think we're mature enough to move away for being Uncle Tomos's and being branded with this symbol of our conquers.

The old FWA "eryr" symbol had a lot going for it. Can't find it in my stock of emojis !!

I agree we should be open to new ideas about Welsh rugby's image it portrays. And I do want to give them credit for trying to be original, rather than just going for a dragon like the football. But these particular designs... Yeah maybe back to the drawing board!

I really like this idea. About time we ditch the three feathers, which is a symbol of who others would like us to be rather than who we are.

I once met a Frenchman who was convinced that the 'three feathers' were actually the leek. 'L'equipe du poireau' he kept on referring to the Welsh XV. No amont of my saying otherwise could shake this belief. Maybe it's time to grant him his wish. I mean, which other country sports (sorry!) a badge for its national team based on a foreign powers Principality ... which itself was stolen from the Counts of Luxembourg by Edward, the Black Prince?

I've never understood the Three Feathers emblem being used on our Rugby shirts? In Football we use the world"s oldest standard being the Y Ddraig Goch. It oozes ancient Welsh Mythology and projects our history of native Celtic warrior people. But with Rugby, being our most successful national sport, use this white feather dirge. And we all know the connotations of receiving a white feather, or three, don't we. The three feathers is a Germanic heraldry with the German 'Ich Dien' on meaning 'I serve', which is as Welsh as Prince Charles is, or to give his real name, Charles Saxe-Coburg-Gotha. I rest my case. Our history is vast, the oldest on this island, but we suffer this ongoing national slight? The Royal Crest of Llewellyn the Great was the four lions rampant. It was a standard also used by Owain Glyndwr. If we don't use Y Ddraig Goch should use this as it has immense Welsh pedigree being used in battle.

National emblem = the Leek so not really a contest only what design to choose. Lady Charlotte Guest's alternative emblem the Daffodil could be on the women's team shirt if they'd prefer. The current Ken Dodd's Tickling Stick emblem is long overdue the red card.

Why go too far from what exists? Use the Eryr Gwyn, White Eagle of Snowdonia.

Dw i'n cytuno - mae angen symbol Cymreig, gan NAD yw'r tair pluen gwyn yn Gymreig o gwbl; maent yn symbol herodrol tywysog Lloegr o'r 4ydd ganrif ar ddeg sef mab hynaf Edward III. Adwaenid y tywysog: 'The Black Prince' . O'r tri cynnig gan Yes Cymru, baswn i'n dewis yr un yn y canol - mae'n hawdd ei adnabod fel blodyn Cennyn Pedr, tra bod yr un ar y chwith yn awgrymu Cennyn Pedr sydd wedi COLLI ei flodyn! Mae'r un ar y dde yn rhy debyg i delyn Iwerddon - yn enwedig gan fod 'na lythyren fras 'I' ar ochr chwith y ddelwedd sydd hefyd yn awgrymu Iwerddon/Ireland. ~ I agree with this - a Welsh symbol is needed, given that the 3 white feathers are NOT Welsh symbols at all; they are an heraldic symbol of an English Prince of the 14th century namely the eldest son of King Edward III. The Prince was known as 'The Black Prince'. Of the three designs suggested by Yes Cymru, I would choose the one in the centre - you can easily recognize it as a Dafffodil flower, whilst the one on the left looks like a Daffodil whose flower has been chopped off (!) and the one on the right resembles an Irish harp too much and the capital letter 'I' on the right of the design suggests the 'I' of Ireland.

What a load of crap. Show that emblem anywhere in the rugby playing world and they know it’s Wales. They don’t think that it is a political emblem forced onto a downtrodden people. Being Welsh I certainly don’t think I am downtrodden. An insult to all the great Welsh players who have worn the feathers.

None of these. The two on the right suggest Yorkshire and Eire. The one on the left is ...... not Welsh. Back tonthe drawing board!

The leek looks like three feathers. The daffodil looks like a rose. The harp is kind of... taken. How about a great big red dragon?

Change the WRU badge to a leek. Instant promotion of leeks, farmers have a new income, use them as biofuel for new bus services, plant them on coal tips to stabilise them, serve up cawl cennin to the homeless. That'll solve all our problems. A stupid statement? Well you started it.

We are at a stage in our history where we wish to express to the world that we are a strong and confident nation with our own unique heritage and history so, why on earth would the WRU wish our rugby players and supporters to sport a badge made up of the 'Ich Dien' feather duster, which expresses our loyalty to another country and its royalty? Our last native Prince was Tywysog Owain Glyndŵr, a leader chosen and crowned at our own Cymric Parliament at Machynlleth and his royal Coat of Arms was the 4 Lions Rampant - as seen flying on flags all over our nation today. One of our greatest rygby stars, Grav (Ray Gravell) was one of Tywysog Owain Glyndŵr's biggest admirers and would proudly wear his coat of arms in a cloth badge form, badge and tie at every opportunity afforded to him so, would it not be a fitting tribute to Grav if his much loved 4 Lions Rampant symbol was adopted by the WRU as a logo and also, would this not be a great way to express to the world that we are a strong and confident nation in our own right with with the blood of great warrior leaders running through our veins. REPLY  

How about the royal standard of Owain Glyndŵr Y Draig Aur Owain Glyndŵr - Owain Glyndŵr - Wikipedia

I'll vote for Y Ddraig Goch.

O'r tri cynllun YesCymru, ydy'r cenhinen y gorau, dw i'n meddwl; gyda URC uwchben WRU (enw dwyieithog).