Not our King: why Charles doesn’t speak for us

The King of England will always be there until we gain independence. If Cymru is to successfully rid ourselves of this king we have to do it quickly. Autocracy is growing around the world and influencing more and more people. The monarchy is an ancient version of it. To many democracy slows things down, nothing appears to get done. (Though of course it does but at a pace that's there, primary, to protect the public). They see a tough leader that does seem to get things done faster. However, what's not realized is the speed isn't for their benefit, it's to control them and to stay in power. As an independent country we would have the opportunity to start a fresh, learn from countries, such as Ireland, and create the equality we the Welsh people deserve.

Charles Saxe-Coburg Gotha, very sad figure who could have had a happy normal life without all the royalty sham. Best remembered as the last to have that strange investiture that will, along with other royal quirks, in time be lost and forgotten.

It's a sad state of constitutional affairs when Charles is probably the last, best and only defence against a rogue Refcon 2029 alliance using the unlimited powers of Parliamentary sovereignty to abolish Wales. Of course that won't last long because a simple majority of MPs screaming about a woke king blocking the will of the people to use the same unlimited powers to abolish the monarchy and appoint Pres Farage. The lack of any real separation of powers should give everyone sleepless nights.

Neither does a hereditary head of state, and especially one imposed on Wales by a different country. If the people if England want to retain their monarchy, it's up to them. But it has no place in a modern, democratic Wales.

There are tens of Thousands of English people who say he is not their King its an outdated thing Kings and Queens besides he has not got anything to do with Wales come to that he has nothing to do with England he is of German and Greek ancestry

Very strange! You've come onto a site called nation.cymru where individuals are obviously speaking for Cymru and not 'You', rightly expressing their views on an unelected individual from another country, who bizarrely called himself the 'Prince' of our country. A nobody who continues to tell 'us' that land taken from this country is not 'ours', but his and that we are forced to pay him for the use of it.

Learning a few words of Cymraeg for the investiture did not make our prince, and stumbling to fill yer mum's shoes doesn't cut it either.

"Not our king" ..... but we still pay for him and his parasites. Get a real job like everyone else instead of scrounging off a struggling population.

No election = no legitimacy as head of state. No ifs. No buts.

Interesting piece. Not going to give any answers here, just going to offer a more pragmatic offering to the debate. So Ireland. Prior to everything going off there was talk - Pearse himself envisioned in 1906 an Ireland a century later would have restored the High Kingship. Sinn Fein was formed as a pro-Monarchy party which sought to create an Anglo-Irish dual Monarchy and during the Rising there was talk of bringing in Joachim of Prussia to be King. Republicans wanted it put to a vote post-Independence provided the person holding the role was not a member of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha. There's even accounts of de Valera offering the role to Donough O'Briain and Hugo O'Donnell. The idea was that a non-English (or native) candidate would anchor Gaelic culture and create a new sense of Irish identity. As we know now; Gaelic identity has failed to see a resurgence - in Wales - our success in protecting our identity comes from the constant challenge of being part of the Anglo-British state. Without that constant challenge then that cultural revival has nothing to rise against... all off a sudden the arguments of Pearse, Plunkett and FitzGerald make sense. A view mirrored by Plaids DJ Davies who said that a Welsh constitutional monarch would legitimise Welsh sovereignty and raise our identity beyond party politics. Our unity as a state will be what determines our survival as an Independent nation. We wont find that unity in modern politics. But the English monarchy is an anathema to Welsh identity; so it must go. Our journey towards Republicanism needs to be organic in a post-Independence scenario - otherwise we risk becoming like Ireland where it's more about "not being England" than being Irish because that is not Independence. We must find our identity within ourselves and not through the domination of the Anglosphere.

Charles was an absolutely useless Prince of Wales. During his investiture in 1969 pledged his undying allegiance to Wales and its people. His promise was as fake as his crown adorned with gold spray painted ping-pong balls. He should never have been made prince. He's not Welsh. Had no birthright to the title. The last true prince was Lewellyn ap Gruffydd aka Llewellyn the last. And now we suffer William being forced on Wales. Like father like son. Equally useless. A so-called prince that cheered on England against Wales during the last World Cup. Another slur, one of many I might add. Also, less we forget. The monarch rubberstamped our annexation in 1535 and Charles mother, William's grandmother, the Queen, gave the greenlight to the flooding of Tryweryn. Note: All acts of parliament need royal ascent. The monarch, he/she, has the power to reject a bill. They never have concerning Wales. And I couldn't care less if England kept its royal family. Tourist don't visit Wales to see any royals. Fact! So any monarchist can't make the same claim used in England. It's time this useless title , Prince of Wales, was consigned to the dustbin of history and the once Kingdom of kingdoms Wales became a republic.

An unelected upper house could not exist without the monarch whose role it is to be the apex of the pyramid of privilege.

"...Look at the USA..." Why? Other constitutional models are available. Why consider one that's approaching 250 years of age, and has obvious flaws?

The Royal family can continue to exist and contribute to the economy as harmless "socialites" without having any constitutional role or powers, or needing any taxpayer cash. No-one is proposing the French solution.

Literally nothing you said there is true. Well done.

That Brand Finance figure is deeply misleading. It includes things like the Crown Estate – which belongs to the state, not the royal family – and even royal warrants on products like Weetabix. The monarchy doesn’t generate that value. It’s piggybacking on branding, tourism and property that would continue to exist without them. Independent studies have repeatedly shown that the real cost to the public is far higher than the Sovereign Grant suggests – once you include security, lost tax revenue and upkeep of royal estates. Quoting PR spin as fact doesn’t make it true. We need democratic scrutiny, not glossy numbers.

You openly support this family of wronguns and parasites? I really hope you don't procreate.

What is it with you always supporting the wronguns?? Between the convicted sex offenders in reform and a family that has been immersed in sexual controversies for decades, you're genuinely a little worrying.

Very well written article. Agree 100%. I think it’s time Yes Cymru took a clear position on monarchy, the youth, our future, are absolutely against monarchy and we are lost without the next generation. Ymlaen, Cymru!🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿