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Keir Starmer’s pro-union arguments were shockingly terrible - and that's very bad news for Labour

By NationCymru
Keir Starmer during his speech

Ifan Morgan Jones

I quite like Keir Starmer. He appeals to the middle-class, centre-left technocrat in me, and I suspect that’s also why so many of the UK media’s pundits are keen to defend him after his Labour conference speech.

But he has a real blind spot when it comes to devolution in general, and the national movements of Wales and Scotland in particular.

I have written about this before after Keir Starmer’s abysmal speech on devolution in December of last year, but the man really, really does not get it.

And that’s a problem for Labour, because without getting it they have probably lost Scotland for good, and any hope of forming the next UK Government with it.

Now, there are good arguments for retaining the union of the UK, just as there are good arguments for Welsh and Scottish independence. Most of the people on either side of these arguments are good people who genuinely want to improve how our lives are governed.

But Keir Starmer’s pro-Union arguments were terrible – shockingly bad. And it betrays a complete lack of understanding at the top of the Labour party about why the UK is in such a fragile state.

Let's go straight to the nadir but also the most telling part of his speech was when he quoted Gordon Brown to say: “When a Welsh or a Scottish woman gives blood… she doesn’t demand an assurance it must not go to an English patient.”

This was only the second and final time Wales was mentioned at all in the speech. And it was supposed to be proof that in fact, deep down, everyone wants the UK to stay together after all.

But what on earth is he going on about? To follow this bizarre line of logic to its conclusion, a person who gives blood in the UK demands that it be given to someone else in the UK. And if they don’t care where it goes, presumably they must not be keen on the UK as a nation-state?

If I was happy for my donated blood to go to a French person, does that mean I want Wales to be run by President Macron and the French Assembly?

It’s mind-boggling.

More worrying still it suggests that Keir Starmer thinks the national movements of Wales and Scotland are driven by (quite literally in this case) blood and soil ethnic nationalism.

They don’t want to be part of the UK because they don’t want to mix their bodily fluids with others. The analogy really is bizarre, and becomes stranger the more you think about it.

This is a complete misunderstanding of what those national movements are about, which are an attempt to take political, cultural and economic power out of a dysfunctional Westminster and bring it closer to home.

It has nothing to do with where people's blood transfusions are going.

Of course, if he had done his homework, Keir Starmer would have discovered that a devolved Welsh Blood Service has existed since 1997 under devolution anyway.

And the Welsh Blood Service is part of the European Blood Alliance, so ‘Welsh blood’ (if there is such a thing) already travels across international borders. This has nothing to do with support or opposition to the United Kingdom, and to even think it does displays a real contempt for the topic.

But of course, Keir Starmer did not do his homework, because for whatever reason he thinks he doesn't need to.

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'Cavalier'

Keir Starmer’s only other defence of the Union in this speech was to repeat brainless mantras with no evidence to back them up.

“It’s not just that our union is in all our economic interests, though that is also true,” he said.

“It’s that we are more progressive together. We are more secure together. We are a bigger presence in the world together. We are greater as Britain than we would be apart.”

What evidence was proffered to support these assertions? Why are we ‘more progressive together’ and if we are how does he explain how Scotland and Wales are more progressive under a conservative Westminster government than their own left wing ones?

Keir Starmer went on to claim that “I believe in the union of the nations on these islands but we have a cavalier government that is placing it in peril.”

But the truth is that Keir Starmer is showing exactly the same cavalier attitude. He is a clever man so we must presume that his not understanding devolution is because he’s simply not interested in it.

The one problem he most needs to solve to win a General Election – how to ensure an electoral foothold for Labour in Scotland – is one he seems almost at pains not to get to grips with.

And presumably – given that his speech would be the combined work on the brightest minds at the top of the party – no one else there has a clue either.

It's not like they don't have the expertise to draw on. Mark Drakeford, their only national elected leader, stands by no doubt ready and willing to advise. The Welsh Government was however mentioned once in the speech and Drakeford himself spoke not as a keynote but to a half-empty hall during a devolution section.

There seems to have been almost no thought given to why Labour in Wales, uniquely in the UK, bucked the trend at May's elections. In there had been, there was none in evidence in the speech.

And in that way, Keir Starmer and the leadership of UK Labour is a symptom of exactly the kind of detached, self-assured, London-centric and wilfully ignorant mindset that is driving the Welsh and Scottish independence movements and the UK further apart.

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15 comments

Dim problem

Probably written before he gave the speech.

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GW Atkinson

Even if it was, its still correct about how little English politicians respect us.

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R W

How was it written before he gave the speech when he quotes parts of the speech in the article?? Nice one Sherlock!!

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Gwyn Williams

The "blood transfusion" statement was a quote of Gordon Brown from 2014, so this view has history in the Labour Party. It shows how ingrained their lack of understanding and disinterest of Wales and Scotland is. They will never learn.

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Paul Luckock

The key issue for Plaid in Wales and Labour in the U.K. is if you cannot persuade registered voters to vote for you, you cannot obtain the power to implement your major policies, you just spend time tinkering at the margins and opposing others policies. Neither party appears to have a clue on how to engage with the contemporary political realities and are not engaging me or you.

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David

"But of course, Keir Starmer did not do his homework, because for whatever reason he thinks he doesn’t need to." sounds just like Boris Johnson.

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Y Cymro

Keir Starmer is Blair MK II. Or trying to be. And like Tony Blair who was Tory in Socialist clothing that fooled the electorate three times, who became a megalomaniac with the blood of millions on his hands, will have to move further to the right to appeal to ones who voted Brexit. Why vote for a cardboard Starmer standee when you've got a bells & whistle Conservative clown Boris Johnson blowing balloons and throwing political custard pies. He's hilarious, says his voters. Who love his fixed smirk and unkempt hair. He's one of us, they say. A man born in New York, that hides his true Turkish Muslim heritage, who attended Eton, a £32k+ private school to the filthy rich, and as part of an all-male exclusive Bullingdon club who were well-known for their bullying, sexism, racism & vandalism , also had a ritual where to join had to burn a £50 note in front of a homeless person. Yeah, one of us. Starmer is wooden. Has no intention of returning workers rights stripped by Thatcher to the very Unions who foolishly still fund the Labour party. And more important to me as a Welsh Nationalist, has the same attitude to Wales Blair had to our devolution when devised. No doubt Starmer would devolve more power to Scotland & NI and neglect Wales, as done recently. I can confidently predict there will be a snap General Election in the next two or three years. Labour will not win. And Wales, unlike Scotland, will be at the mercy of a fascist Tory government led by a racist, misogynist , Islamaphobe homophobic, anti-Wales Boris Johnson at the helm of his idocracy ready to resource- rape and rip any sovereignty we gained with devolution apart. Be warned! #YesCymru 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿. #IndyWales 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 #IndyCymru 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 #Ymlaen 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

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Anthony Andrew Hollis

I find the attacks on Blair slightly strange as he was the PM who tried to introduce devolution, with Wales almost voting against, as did various parts of England.

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GW Atkinson

Unionists are like moths to a flame, they know it doesn't work yet they still think its a good idea even though they get burned every single time. Try a different way, a way that we aren't controlled and shat on by a government another country voted into power. How about WE get the government Wales voted for? Surely that's a much better outcome for us, instead of a country that is on the opposite end of the political spectrum to us getting that choice.

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Charles L. Gallagher

For starters, Scottish and Welsh Labour could register with the Electoral Commission as independent political entities in their respective countries instead of their current status of being mere 'Branch Offices' of a London Party which as far as Scotland is fast vanishing down the plughole with just 'ONE' MP and even he owes his success to Tory and Liberal tactical voters!!!!

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W T

A good article. I agree with most of it. The only bit I would like some clarification is "...there are good arguments for retaining the union of the UK...". As a supporter of Scottish independence I have been trying for several years to think of what such an argument would be. I cannot see any good reason for the UK as an institution at all. Unionist arguments up here seem to be the same as they inflict on the growing and exciting independence movement in Wales - we cannot manage our own affairs, too wee, too poor the usual guff. I have yet to hear a positive argument for the union and I believe that is because there isn't one.

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Ned Parish

Keir Starmer's statement,  “When a Welsh or a Scottish woman gives blood… she doesn’t demand an assurance it must not go to an English patient.” is deeply hurtful. To say that any man, woman or child that urgently needed life saving blood who was not of Welsh or Scottish residency, would have it denied to them by those of us who support more devolved powers or independence is a vile accusation. Because it is such an offensive lie it will hurt the Labour party and Keir Starmer the most, as it should.

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CapM

  When an English woman pays tax… she doesn’t demand an assurance it must not go to benefit a Scottish or Welsh person. Based on comments to the media I hear I think quite a few would like to though.

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Cat

The Senedd election was telling in this respect. Many in England on the borders got Senedd election literature via Facebook and were furious that Wales has free prescriptions. Facebook was full of posts claiming that "The English were paying for prescriptions to be free in Wales." Well, after all we don't pay taxes here :-)

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David RJ Lloyd

starmer’s arrival on stage pose replicated ronaldo’s ego driven post scoring stance. i almost chuckled up ffs

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