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How the Welsh Conservatives can win the 2021 Senedd election

By NationCymru
Paul Davies. © Russell Hart/Alamy Live News.

Charlie Evans, Deputy Chairman of the Carmarthen West & South Pembrokeshire Conservative Association

Just 23 years ago, not one person in Wales was represented by a Conservative MP, as Wales was swept up as part of the 1997 Blair landslide win.

Two years later, they didn’t fare much better in Wales’ inaugural Assembly election. The Tories won only one constituency in Monmouthshire, despite facing the unpopular Alun Michael as Welsh Labour leader.

For a hundred years Labour have dominated this country. And in the 21 years of devolution, Labour have been a permanent feature in government, either alone or in a coalition.

Given this unprecedented electoral domination, you would think Wales lives in a land of unparalleled wealth, schools are centres of excellence within the United Kingdom and its hospitals are unrivalled in terms of their care.

However, the reality couldn’t be more different. Wales has the highest percentage of relative income poverty in the UK, at nearly a quarter. In education, Wales is the worst country of the UK for reading, maths and science. In health, 28% of patients don’t get seen within a four-hour target time in Accident and Emergency. Ambulance waiting times are getting worse with 27% of patients in life-threatening circumstances not being seen within the eight-minute target. More than half of Welsh adults are obese or overweight.

Wales as a nation is also the unhappiest in the UK and nearly a third of the people of Wales binge drinks. From a Covid-19 perspective, we can only just about manage a thousand tests a day whilst England teeters around the 100,000 mark.

But it doesn’t have to be this way. Wales doesn’t have to be the poor man of the UK anymore. Wales is a naturally conservative country. We, the Welsh, value family and local communities in the form of the rugby club, the pub, the village hall, the church. We value rural life, the heartbeat of this great nation. We love the arts and beauty, from the artisan streets of Portmeirion to the poetry of Dylan Thomas.

We value our rich history and culture, with our language thriving despite attempts to curb it. We are a country of the unique customs seen in our Eisteddfods. We are a nation known for its great religious revivals where Nonconformism spread, where church and family life were at the heart of the human experience. Our natural conservatism is what makes Wales special.

Yet we are no rural idyll. We also know we can also be at the heart of global innovation, as we were when the Industrial Revolution brought wealth and jobs to Wales. And despite a minority in Wales believing that we live in an English Empire, nostalgic about an age gone before, we are proud partners with our friends in England, Scotland and Northern Ireland forming the great family of nations - the United Kingdom.

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Accountability

So Wales should be natural Tory territory - patriotic and conservative in nature. But Wales has been patronised and taken advantage of by the Labour Party, keeping her on a drug of dependency. They have become complacent, knowing that Wales will vote them back in however little effort they put into solving our problems.

Wales is certainly not Plaid Cymru territory. They are a party who seek to use the power of the state to enforce their version of Wales on everyone else. Conservatives believe that Wales, her values, and her culture are strong enough to survive through the skill of persuasion and argument.

Some are concerned by what they see as a devo-scepticism within the Conservative party. But this is caused by frustration at an institution that was created by Labour in order to assert Labour control over Wales. The Labour Party wanted devolution for Wales because they knew they would be elected repeatedly - that was always the plan back in 1997.

And the reason is that the Welsh electorate is very uninformed as to where decisions are made, due to a virtually non-existent Welsh media, a UK media that doesn’t report properly on Wales and a Labour Government who sing and champion its own virtues when things go well and shy away from any responsibility or accountability when the going gets tough.

In the Covid-19 crisis, Welsh eyes seem to have finally been opened and they have realised that, actually, there is a Welsh Government that has quite serious powers. The Welsh Government may be basking in that attention at the moment but this heightened perception of who is in charge in Wales will not go away with the coronavirus pandemic. People will now know at whose feet the blame lies for Wales’ present condition.

Investment

So what do the Welsh Conservatives need to do to win next year’s Senedd election?

First of all, respect devolution. It is here to stay, and it is good – power taken closer to the hands of local people, a nice via media between Westminster centralisation of power and Welsh independence, a model to keep Wales as a strong distinctive voice within the strongest Union of nations in world history.

It is why I voted for Brexit – to take power back closer to the people. It is something that the Conservatives support naturally, and once we loosen Labour's one-party grip on power in Wales our natural frustration at Welsh devolution will go with it. Polls show that the people of Wales very much support devolution too. So if we want to taste electoral success at the ballot box next year, we must respect the institution of the Welsh Parliament as the people of Wales do.

We also need to commit to capital investment in Wales. This country lags behind like other parts of the United Kingdom. Mid and West Wales’ rail infrastructure is significantly behind the pace. Towns like Aberystwyth are connected to the Midlands but not its neighbours to the south. Bus services are irregular outside the Valleys and the cities in the south. Private sector involvement in north and mid-Wales is limited, with a high dependency on jobs in the public sector. We need Wales to become a desirable place to live and work, not just to retire to at the end of a career.

But this is a problem which Boris Johnson encouragingly seems to want to address - levelling up areas outside the economic centre in London and the south-east. A Welsh Conservative Government would put Wales in a fantastic position to go into tough negotiations with Westminster and get our share of the funding we need. We would be the driver of our own success, rather than blaming Westminster at every hurdle.

Thirdly, a commitment to reform public services. There is this myth perpetuated by the political left that the more money public services have, the better they will operate. Where we can find the money to fund these things, let’s do so. But we have to address the massive mismanagement of the NHS, our schools and other vital public services.

We also need to address the social problems that blight this country. Often we have adopted the laissez-faire approach, the lift yourselves up by the bootstraps, the rags to riches stories to inspire. Whilst encouraging personal and family responsibility and encouraging everyone to achieve their potential, we need to level Wales up, aspiring to give her the same opportunities as London and the South-East.

But we cannot lambast the Labour government for its record without having compelling ideas and solutions ourselves to tackle alcohol addiction, substance abuse, crime, homelessness and financial insecurity.

Strong position

Back in 1999, I am not sure how many people in Wales would have believed that just two decades later in 2019’s snap winter General Election, that the Conservatives would win 14 seats, 36% of the popular vote just 4% lower than the Labour Party, a party who has won the popular vote in every Welsh General or Assembly Election since 1922.

99 years later, we have the opportunity to end our miserable run by electing a Conservative administration in 2021. The latest Welsh Barometer Poll shows us polling higher than Labour. We were also the only party to respect Wales’ mandate to leave the European Union whilst Labour, Plaid Cymru and the Lib Dems undermined it at every stage.

We are in a strong position but nothing is guaranteed. In 2021, the political landscape, in the aftermath of Covid-19, will be very different. Taking this election for granted isn’t an option – anything less than a comprehensive win will give Wales another Labour government, in partnership with Plaid Cymru, for another five years.

The opportunity is here. We can truly prosper as a unique, distinct power within the family of the United Kingdom. We can do this. We must do this. And if we do, the next chapters of the Story of Wales could be our best yet.

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50 comments

Plain citizen

Some good points. Welsh Labour has presided over years of dismal failure in every sector. Throwing money at publicly owned services and institutions without a plan and some idea of making them efficient does not work. You only need to look at Public Health Wales and England and their multiple cock ups over centralising testing and ppe and compare with the decentralised German (and South Indian and everywhere else) model to see that. Welsh politics needs a boot up the arse and Tory victory might well shake up the Cardiff elite. We need to stop harking back to the 'glory days' (if ever was a label less merited?) of coal and steel. We need to invest in education especially in STEM subjects. Attract businesses and especially the establishment of new ones by cutting taxes (it's worked in Ireland) and vastly reducing planning and other restrictions. Get rid of a lot of climate change obligations (as Germany is now doing) which add vastly to costs of consumers and businesses (that's why the steelworks keep going bust) and let's get going.

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Jonesy

Agree with you, but not re global warming challenges... if we fail to act there will be no bright future,

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No Name

Autumatic unsubscribe for publishing this windbag's nonsense. The Tories hate Wales and would have us working ourselves to death again to assuage their parochial voting base in middle England if they had the opportunity. The absolute last thing Wales needs is the party of ideological inequality in a position where they can do further damage.

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Plain citizen

What policies would you promote to increase prosperity in Wales then? Not just windbag slogans ('inequality yadda yadda yadda'). Tell us how you will fund your plan.

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Steve Thomas

If this ever happened I would move to Scotland-never trust a tory. Our parliament would have most o their powers handed back to London on a plate

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David Roberts

Good to see the Tories posting articles here! Good to see all sides of the arguments.....would be good to see some more Larour & Liberal articles here also!

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Ceri

Agree, we need to see all or none. I'd prefer none, but 'all' will do. I have a sneaking suspicion that, given the unionist stances in the other parties, it will remain Plaid heavy given the (fully admitted and, for me, welcome) bias of Nation.

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David Jones

He forgot to include the Covid-19 death rates comparison: 36.6 deaths per 100,000 people in Wales, 52.7 deaths per 100,000 in England (Channel 4 News Fact Check).

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Plain citizen

I am not a Tory but I think a shake up and pragmatic policymaking is needed ('let's do what works', and look at Ireland Germany etc). If you didn't think any articles written by politicians and their staff would be on this site you obviously have not read and previous days postings.

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j humphrys

You mean the European countries, ha!

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Ceri

Mr Evans. You voted for Brexit in order to 'take power back' - follow that instinct through to the end. You will find that you could back a separation of, first, the Welsh arm of your party, then your nation from the very union that has allowed Cymru to be in the parlous situation she is in. We need capital investment. Agreed. We won't get any serious interest bar the gleaning of an embedded low-pay workforce whilst we remain part of this imbalanced union. We may get a 'stronger voice' (demographically implausible except to 'save the union', at which point we may be looking at an indy for England movement), but never ascend, never be able to realise our full potential, never get a chance to exercise our individuality. You make certain cultural allusions here too - Dylan Thomas, Portmeirion architecture, pubs, chapels, choirs. Why not extend it to Black cabs, Morris dancing, Big Ben, the Queen? You know they don't apply here, you know they rank alongside warm baguettes, Mozart, matryoshka dolls and Dia delos Muertos; nice, but not ours, we also have a culture that dates back into pre-history, a distinct language, different naming conventions. We're different to the point that claiming kinship other than as human beings is simply wrong. We are hearing more reasonable, Cymro-friendly rhetoric from the Tories on this side of the clawdd, and I for one am reluctant to assume cynical, power-grabbing unionism-in-sheep's-clothing. I think many, like Mr. Evans, are sincere (and viewed as useful idiots by your Westminster paymasters). Keep pushing at the walls of your current hypotheses, Mr. Evans - beyond the confines of limiting unionism you will find a Nation waiting to be born, one that could be shaped to look like the Wales you described above. I, and many fellow Cymry would support your vision. It cannot happen until we are free.

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John

Unlike some others, I applaud the decision to publish this barrow load of arrant nonsense. I am amazed at this time that any Tory should stick their head over the parapet, given the abject failure of Johnson's government to protect its population during the Covid19 crisis. Anyone who thinks they are a safe bet seriously needs to compare us with Germany. We should be crying from the rooftops about the holocaust ripping through our care homes, the sheer wanton lack of preparedness throughout the UK (yes, of which Wales is a part) and the consistent lying to the public. I could go on and on, but I would very much have liked the author to explain the benefits to Wales of Brexit. Not the slogans, aspirations or fairytales but the hard benefits. Why? Because there aren't any and there lies the problem with British Conservatism... Opportunistic, self-serving and arrogant. Thank you for giving us an opportunity to vent our anger, because anger it is... Really.

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Plain citizen

What policies, on industry and tax for example would you put forward to help Wales become more prosperous? You know Brexit is a fact so bearing that in mind what would you do?

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Richard Huw Morgan

Clwych, clwych. Totally agree. I'm not sure how anyone who refuses to listen to others opinions can expect to have their own respected. Though some will already believe this nonsense, and will therefore continue to believe it, it is quite likely that it will make others even more resolved to ensure that the Tory distopia does not control the Senedd

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Jonathan Edwards

Crikey - are you OK? I am writing from Pembs which has Welsh-speaking local ex-banker as Tory AM, who leads his party. And we have a council-house boy from Haverfordwest as our Tory MP. I did not vote Tory here, but I will buy this Article. But being fully aware that the writer may not be stating mainstream Tory policy. We have something to work with here. Welsh Toryism + say Plaid leftiness in coalition could be just the thing Wales needs to escape from Labour's 100 wasted years in Wales. Pity it won't happen - because Plaid have lost it. So we need to try something else to get Wales moving.

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Eos Pengwern

A good article which does a good job of pinpointing Labour's culpable incompetence at running Wales. I have a genuine question though. The Conservatives define themselves as a Unionist party - in fact their full name is "The Conservative and Unionist Party". Therefore we can take it that their abiding interest is to preserve the Union at all costs. But how can that be squared with a promise to bring the Welsh economy up to the level of a normal country? If a Conservative-run Senedd really did succeed in delivering economic growth and reducing Wales's crushing levels of poverty, they'd have undermined the main argument for Wales remaining in the Union - namely, our alleged dependence on Westminster subsidies to keep us from starving. Therefore, the Conservatives have exactly the same dilemma as the Labour Party - they daren't deliver on their promises, because if they did then it would undermine their very raison d'être. That's why we in Gwlad remain convinced that the only way Wales can succeed is to have (small-c) conservative economic policies delivered by a pro-independence party.

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NationCymru

Hello. I don't normally intervene 'below the line' but could I remind people not to post multiple comments under different aliases? It's just been flagged up that there are quite a few very similar comments being posted under different names from the same IP addresses. This is contrary to the community standards as set out above and will lead to IP addresses being blocked. No one wants that I'm sure - because it's faff for me and stops you commenting. I want to keep the comments section as open and accessible as possible (no one wants to go back to Facebook). Thanks! - Ifan

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Huw Davies

Ie wir ! We've had to cope with two-faced people for decades, indeed lifetimes, but scribblers with many names are a new pest that has to be eradicated. Diolch Ifan .

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Huw J Davies

I'm a different Huw Davies (I now use my middle initial) but I'd like to point out that VPNs are plentiful and checking someone's IP address doesn't prove anything. I often use one to avoid spam and cookies, which is an unpleasant combination in every sense. There have even been a few times where I agreed with so much of what the other Huw Davies had posted that I thought i might have written it in some sort of fugue state and thought I'd better add the J just to remind myself! Fi yw y fi yw y fi... a rwy'n dal i gofio Anouska Hempel. Pwy fydde wedi credu wrth i Mynediad am Ddim odli Fi gyda Stan Lee bydde storiau Stan Lee wedi dod yn ffilmiau poblogaidd, ddegawdau yn hwyrach. Yn anffodus mae y linell "... ond mae'n nrhowsus i'n rhy dyn.." wedi bod yn rhy broffwydol! A hynny heb gael llawer o Spam a cookies chwaith.

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Amber Gambler

It's definitely time for another party to have a go at the Senedd, Labour are making devolution look bad. I must confess to being a little frustrated at Plaid Cymru's stubborn outright refusal to consider a possible coalition with the Conservatives. I say that as a lifelong Plaid voter. Providing Plaid were not junior partners to the extent of the Lib Dems in Westminster 10 or so years ago, they would at be able to have a big say in changing Wales for the better. Some comments on here overreact massively to the fact that a Conservative has been given a platform here. The guy is championing devolution. He has every right to voice his opinion here, just like members of other political parties have done. Throwing toys from prams isn't going to help anyone.

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Glen

Absolutely, the biggest threat to devolution is not from the Brit right it's from the incompetence and arrogance of the Welsh left who think they own devolution.

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j humphrys

My little self is centre-right, but over the last years I have come to distrust, and actively dislike the Welsh Conservatives. Just this week, they sat in silence while one of their own in England attacked our Senedd. Brexit is heavily dependent on a lunatic currently in charge in Washington, and even if he is defeated for inflicting grievous bodily harm to the United States, his successors will have it in for what's left of the UK, or Yuk as one of them said last year. Why? Because of the very influential Irish vote, especially among Democrats. This Island may pay dearly for the short sighted insularity of these Conservatives.

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Huw Davies

j.h - I did read reports of Tories from this side of the Clawdd telling the daft Pole from t'other side to take his nose and stick it elsewhere. I vaguely recall that one of them was the sitting M.P for Maldwyn, maybe Simon Hart was the other. In the Commons the notorious ar*e licker from Bridgend got put down by Boris when asking a non question about the Senedd in Wales. Boris didn't thank the muppet for the question and went on to say that he found things generally worked quite well with the devolved administrations. Bit of a smack on the earhole for the boy although he's probably too daft to realise that.

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Ceri

Boris will have taken him aside and given him a book on how to win at poker. Never show your hand! Ah well, we've seen it now. A 7 and a 2 is bad, right?

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j humphrys

Okay, but hope you won't mind if I wait for the official apology from the Welsh Tories in the Senedd, as you have obviously had to work quite hard at finding something? That's how far things have come for me, sorry.

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Ann Swindale

"From a Covid-19 perspective, we can only just about manage a thousand tests a day whilst England teeters around the 100,000 mark." It is worth reading the article by Dr Angharad Puw Davies from Swansea University's School of Medicine in Barn (also reproduced on the Academi Hywel Teifi Facebook page) to wonder how effective this magic increase in testing actually is. There is a very high element of "pot calling the kettle black" in this article. My observations of ambulance and hospital services in England are that they are not significantly better than in Wales. Public transport services by bus were decimated when they were deregulated by the UK government long before devolution. It was the UK Government which stopped the planned electrification to Swansea after money had been spent on it, while they are continuing to plough ahead with the environmental disaster which is HS2.

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Dr John Ball

I'm disappointed at those whose response to this article has been to unsubscribe or not subscribe. Yes the tories can't be trusted here or at Westminster and in any event a tory majority in 2021 is as likely as martians landing in Cardiff on St David's Day. BUT Nation Cymru is an important part of the media in Wales and a very important source of discussion and debate - and, like it or not, the tories should be allowed to contribute to the discussion. The real response is to work for and vote for an independence party next May.

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K. K

You're not really Welsh though Charlie because you prioritise the needs of your masters in London over those in Wales. I could spend a considerable amount of time deconstructing your article but I won't save for the fact that you have never done anything for Wales. You have continuously made it poorer whenever in government, destroyed livelihoods and jobs and continue to destroy effective and efficient public services and outsource it to friends in high places for financial gain. Your party is complicit in thousands of deaths and most of the MPs elected aren't even Welsh let alone live in Wales. You offer nothing other than breadcrumbing and social division which is the tone of your article and which is a common tactic amongst your party. Wales is a Conservative country he says. It isn't and never has been. For those who think that he raises any good points then proceed with caution as divide and conquer is prominent theme here and if you seriously think for one moment that this party which steals money from Welsh Government coffers and has no intention of ever match funding EU monies after Brexit is your best hope then more fool you. I don't owe this man nor his party anything.

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Alun Jones

As a constituent of Simon Hart MP and Angela Burns AS I would agree with the overall sentiment expressed in this article. It would be healthy for Wales to have a Conservative government. There would be a natural alliance with central UK government and allow a new Conservative Welsh government to implement its election manifesto. When you refer to improving rail transport between Mid Wales (Aberystwyth) and West Wales I assume the writer is referring to South West Wales only. It is also important to improve transport arrangements between South West Wales and North West/East Wales -in particular the A487 ( Haverfordwest to Bangor). It would be a step towards bringing Wales closer together as a nation. Further improvements to the A470 would also play a similar role in bringing the nation together.

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K. K

'There would be a natural alliance with central UK government and allow a new Conservative Welsh government to implement its election manifesto.' How laughable. You're essentially talking unionism and dilution of powers in the Welsh Parliament. What you're proposing essentially is the sort of approach that existed during the colonial era. Are you a bot?

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Ann Owen

Better rail transporrt in mid and west Wales, better transport links between South West and North West/East Wales? Better ,vote Plaid in 2021 then!

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Lynne Edwards

Periodic change is generally healthy for democracy. Challenge to the status quo is always necessary. I try to keep up with all views. Two points: 1. The description of conservatIsm given is rather far from the views of the dominant faction in Westminster and many constituency parties these days, though it would be familiar to John Major. Some MPs for Welsh seats are notable enthusiasts for the new guard, whose permanent revolution would have little time for such quaintnesses as “our rich history and culture” . I note the advice to Welsh Conservatives to respect devolution. For it to work it would need English conservatives also to do so. There is a strong force determined to gather all power, whether from above or below, back to Westminster, and even to sweep away all constitutional and legal restraint on the power of the government of the day to do anything it likes in pursuit of “getting things done”. It would be good to see Welsh conservatism resisting this force and its proponents, including those proponents from Wales. 2. The article addresses only “We, the Welsh”. Most politicians in Wales carefully refer to “the people of Wales”. At the last census only about two thirds of the population of Wales considered themselves Welsh. The remainder were mainly English. The Telegraph noted at the time that the Welsh were on course to become a minority in Wales. I shall be interested to see if the trend has indeed continued when we get the result of next year’s census, if we have one. Why no thoughts about the voting instincts of the large non Welsh segment of the population?

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John Ellis

Your second point calls to mind a parallel I've noticed between Wales and the Baltic states, each of which - Estonia and Latvia especially - have significant minorities, Russian in language and in sentiment, which are the product of their small countries' centuries of domination by the large neighbour to the east!

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Jonathan Gammond

It would be interesting to see how many people in England consider themselves English, there are plenty of other options: British, Scottish, Welsh, Irish, European and the many BAME hyphenated and non- hyphenated identities. The same menu applies in Wales. For many people ticking just one box is impossible.

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Louis Samuel

They've always published pieces like this. You get articles from all across the political spectrum.

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Jason Evans

I've moaned before about impartiality but that's because I felt Nation had an unnecessary dig at an individual but as for the above I personally welcome articles from everybody across the political divide, whether its The WNP, Plaid, Gwlad or the unionist parties, and that's even if I like it or not. Evan's though is a sheep in wolves clothing as if his masters in London would encourage more powers of devolution given the choice. All I can say is Gompel, Roche and Kawczynski (and these are just in the last few weeks). And with the increasing support for Independence perhaps the people of Cymru/Wales are getting more interested in self determination not devolution? ANNIBYNIAETH I GYMRU !!!

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David Roberts

Silly comment!!

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John Ellis

I can't see why anyone should object to Welsh Conservatives contributing to this site; after all, as Mr Evans was quick to point out at the start of his opinion piece, the Tories appear to have considerably more voter support here than seemed to be the case not too long ago. They clearly merit a voice here, and as poor ideas are only ever countered by better ideas we all should surely welcome the cut and thrust which makes that process possible. So good for Mr Evans for offering his thoughts, and good for 'Nation Cymru' for publishing them. But that doesn't imply that I buy the totality of the 'Evans line'. To take one instance, I'm quite ready to take Mr Evans's stated commitment to devolved government at its face value. My sense is that however opposed to the devolution proposals the Conservatives were when they were no more than a Labour policy commitment, twenty years on at least some Conservatives in Wales have not just become reconciled to devolved government, but now see some positives to it. At the very - cynical - least, it's provided some of them with parliamentary careers which might not otherwise been available to them! But I think it's more than that; for instance, Simon Hart, the secretary of state for Wales and Mr Evan's own Westminster MP, has a parliamentary career which is quite separate from the Senedd, yet in his short time in post he comes over, in public at least, as positive towards devolved government and eirenic in his attitude towards a Cardiff Bay government formed by his politcal opponents. I'm sure that Mr Hart and Mr Evans aren't the only Conservatives in Wales of that mind; David Melding strikes me as another obvious example. But I remain convinced that the right-wing imperial nostalgics now unconditionally dominant in the Conservative party at Westminster - and probably widely across England too, and doubtless with allies in Wales too - remain as devoted to 'our traditional British way of doing things' as they ever were, and therefore as opposed to devolution as ever. And that if they discern a possible right moment and a likely strategy to begin to bring it down, they'll attempt it. And that if they succeed they'll expect the party's membership in Wales to fall quietly into line behind the decision. Which with hardly an exception they'll do, because that's the Tory way. Even Mr Hart. And Mr Evans!

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John Young

For God's sake Arfon, why shouldn't a Tory post an article. There are Tory voters in Wales whether you like it or not. Why not take them posting as something positive. It gives us an opportunity to say exactly what we think about them. This for example - 'We also need to commit to capital investment in Wales. This country lags behind like other parts of the United Kingdom. Mid and West Wales’ rail infrastructure is significantly behind the pace. Towns like Aberystwyth are connected to the Midlands but not its neighbours to the south.' The Tories and Labour had the chance to 'commit to capital investment in Wales' for decades before the Sennedd was even put in place. But they didn't. And 'rail infrastructure' which is the responsibility of Network Rail (a UK organisation) has invested virtually nothing in Wales' rail infrastructure over the last ten years. Since 2011 just 1% of investment when Wales has 6% of UK rail lines. No wonder it's so rubbish. And for this guy to even suggest that a Tory government would change this is beyond belief. Just last year there was a report about planned rail infrastructure spend in the UK. There was X amount for Scotland (can't remember the amount), there was X amount for NI (can't remember the amount. Then there was £2.5 billion allocated to that mythical country known as Englandandwales. And the amount planned to be spent in England was, wait for it, £2.5 billion. It's just laughable. So when people like this Charlie post on this site take it as an opportunity to lay into him and show him up for what he is, A pillock.

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Sibrydionmawr

Couldn't agree more. We, who have a good memory and a grasp of things should be able to tear this article to shreds and expose the massive elephant in the room: that much of the initial responsibility for the parlous state of Wales is fundamentally down to Tory governments in Westminster, especially during the past 40 years when every government in Westminster has been Tory. Relative poverty in Wales has a long history and whilst the Labour party might not have acquitted itself wonderfully it is a bit much to expect them to make the kind of transformation this 'pillock' (very apt term, love it) expects, especially when it is Tory economics and industrial policy that caused the poverty in the first place. Ten years of ideological austerity hasn't helped either and who has been responsible for that? Let's not forget that though the Welsh Government in Cardiff Bay has some control over matters in Wales, Westminster still has control of key areas, and has been careful to only devolve those areas that can potentially be used as political footballs - areas such as health, education and social policy. Capping this by cutting the block grant, which was until very recently the only source of income available to the Welsh government, the Tories have set up the Welsh Government to fail. The writer mentions patriotism. Ha! I think he means chauvinistic jingoism, which is the only form of 'patriotism' recognised by the Tories, this guy is talking through his pen ôl. Social policy in Wales is directly related to economic policy, and to blame the Welsh Government for the poverty and poorly performing economy is a bit rich coming from someone whose party wrecked that economy in the first place. No one would say that reform wasn't required and that the economy didn't badly need diversification, but there was no reform, just complete devastation with little other than cosmetic attempts at replacing the lost industries, often with the branch factories of international corporations bribed to come here to milk the grants and exploit the cheap workforce of wage slaves before departing for pastures new where the grants were better and the workers even cheaper. Our education system used to be much better than that of England until not so very long ago. The rot set in post the 1988 Education Reform Act, a Tory act that for the first time allowed direct political meddling in the education of the nation's children, something that every other act up until that one had studiously avoided, leaving curriculum and day to day running up to the right and proper body - the local authority. The only centrally imposed curriculum demand a daily religious service. Since 1988 the education system has become a political football, and it is for this reason more than any other, that our education system appears to be 'failing'. But we are comparing apples and oranges if we compare the Welsh education system with that of England, and we have to ask, which parts of the English system are being compared with the Welsh? Is it the academy sector, which makes the Welsh system look like a runaway success, or the independent sector? Any fair assessment would probably show that the two are probably pretty much at s similar level, and whilst reform is certainly required, it's not the kind of reform that the Tories would approve of, or, to be fair, many in the Labour party would like either. Any attempt to produce self-regulating human beings with functioning crap detectors and critical thinking would be opposed by much of the status quo in governments everywhere. Much of the above criticisms also hold true for our healthcare system - too much political meddling. Why not leave education to the educators and those to be educated, and healthcare to those doing the healing and those in need of treatment? Public transport - isn't the reason that Wales is in the slow lane as regards both rail and bus down yet again to Tory transport policy? Wasn't it under a Tory government that the rail infrastructure in Wales, that apparently actually broke even, was intentionally vandalised under the Beeching Report commissioned by the Tories in 1961? And wasn't it bus deregulation in 1986 under Thatcher that our bus services were deliberately hobbled, actually making it unlawful for bus and trains services to be integrated? It may be that the Welsh government isn't doing as well as it could do, (Transport for Wales should have launched thoroughly bilingual from day one, and that's just one criticism) it inherited a messed up system that needs to be unravelled, but in this it is hampered by having to implement through the private sector which is set up to deliver profits, not transport. So the Tories love our national language so much that in 1993 they pass an act that was a crude attempt to bribe the crachach into the bureaucracy required to administer such an act of designed inadequacy, as it only covers the public sector. Classic divide and rule: let's offer the Welsh speaking middle-classes cushy jobs so they won't rock the boat! Any decent act would have been both simple to understand and simple to administer: in Wales, everything is bilingual, as the general rule and exemptions have to be applied for. Labour if I remember correctly, abstained in the vote in 1993, exclaiming that they'd 'do the job properly' once they returned to power.... Why are we still waiting? Had there been the political will and the policies contained within both the 1988 Education Reform Act and the Welsh Language Act 1993, poor as they are, had been adhered to, Wales could now truly be much further along in the aim of being a bilingual country. But there is no real will, and that's a commonality in all political parties in Wales. About so much of the article above one could question, 'pot, kettle, black' and muse on the prospect of a Tory wedded to an economic philosophy has failed crtiicising a government that is failing because it has to operate within that failed economic philosophy and then berate it for apparent failure. Yes, the Labour government in Wales is crap, but I suspect that a Tory government in Cardiff Bay would be even crapper, given how deluded the particular specimen above appears to be. On second thoughts, 'pillock' doesn't quite make it. I'd suggest a word that could be a likely candidate to be censored, so I'll just say that he's something that many doors have.

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Ben Angwin

"Our national conservatism is what makes Wales special", that's a nail on the head. Wales is the most culturally conservative nation in Western Europe. It's why Welsh is spoken by so many. And we should celebrate it.

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Steve Duggan

Mr Davies - it is your party that made us one of the poorest parts of Europe. You say taking back control will allow us to localise politics but it isn't the EU that prevents that (For example, Germany has very localised power) it's Westminster and in particular Tory held Westminster. There would never have been any form of devolution if Labour hadn't been in charge, I'm not a Labour supporter but the truth is the truth. Conservatives hate devolution no matter what you say and only put up with it now as they have no choice. I'm sorry Mr Davies but i've seen the effects of Tory governments from Thatcherism and the hated poll tax to Cameron and the disastrous austerity measures. I can not trust your party. When we build a new independent nation it will have to involve a mixture of left and right policies - your party is too extreme for Wales.

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Nigel Bull

As a Labour member, I find it sad there is far too much truth in the article. For those that object to this and other articles from those that you disagree with, you have the attitude that holds Plaid, Nationalism and Independance back. The best selling newspapers in Wales- The Sun, Mirror and Mail. No on is forced to buy them and is able to buy the welsh papers. That is the mindset of the country, as a democrats you have to live with it, unless of course you really are not which is my suspicion.

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Jonathan Gammond

The challenge for the Conservatives is to prove they are our voice in Westminster rather than Westminster's voice in our communities; a task that will always be more difficult for a unionist party if they are monolithic or act at the behest of the usual lobbies. The Conservatives have to give up their bias that 'public' is bad and 'private' is good, both approaches have their weaknesses but some areas of life are better organized through the non-profit and the democratically accountable. There is nothing in Conservative thinking that should make them against devolution both to Cardiff and more so to local authorities so that begs the question why they have become the party of centralization since 1979. Other ideologies must be in the mix. Finally the Conservatives have to stop worshipping 'money', they are obsessed with tax cuts yet our public infrastructure is falling apart and we have become the "how to not to do it" case study for other governments during the coronavirus. Saying all that, it was good to hear their side of the debate ; a one sided debate is not worth listening to. However they need to continue to engage and understand: Wales is not England and England is not shorthand for the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

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Steve Duggan

This is the problem - old Conservative traditions have been completely swamped by money orientated, privatisation loving thatcherites. All in the hope the money will trickle down to the person on the shop floor or employers will act benevolently and invest in their local communities and all with as less regulation as possible involved. It doesn't work - employers do not invest in their communities and the profits do not trickle down to the workers, instead CEOs get huge bonuses and share holders rake it in. Without some sort of regulation the average worker would be no better off than those who used to work in the 19th century workshops. Am I being too harsh? Nope, huge bonuses are common and the disparity between wages and living costs as grown, leading to gross inequality in the UK.

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Lost the plot

Any more from this idiot and I am going to stop my subscription. Free speech is paramount, but please filter for numpties with an agenda.

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Steven

How can they win 1 Wales is financed by Westminster We're still a poor nation Tory wales labour doing bad .Tory in uk government People are not stupid in wales we dont trust tories .they're known as liars in wales

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Fritz the Opiniated but Often Wrong

As an old-fashioned anarcho-syndicalist and ardent proponent of the independence of all nations,especially Cymru, I welcome this article. We all need to engage respectfully with people we disagree with. By submitting this article, the author has done this. I'd love to have a pint with them and see where we can agree on how to make the lives of the people in Cymru better in the future.

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Plain citizen

You are right. To be be able to courteously exchange differing views is a mark of civilisation. On that can be built common policies for a common cause.

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Lloyd Orange

I think it's healthy to have a forum where conservative and liberal opinions can be expressed. To be honest I was surprised and relieved that the article didn't talk abolishing the Assembly. They'll have to call it abolish the Senedd now, doesn't have such a good ring to it..

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