Citizens' Assemblies are the key to finding out what an independent Wales should look like

Who would organize such a CA? How would the participants be selected? And would they be a representative cross section of all the people of Wales, including those who are for and against independence as well as those on the fence?

We are not setting out on an easy path. We in Wales must must challenge the power of Westminster for our own sakes. However, the Brexit debacle has revealed the complexities of a 40 year old Union. Wales has been annexed to England for over 500 years and it will take good will from English people to make independence a reality. Similar initiatives to break Westminster need to be encouraged across the Dyke. This is not going to be achieved by fiat.

Citizens' Assemblies? Absolutely - spot on. They need 'disrupters' to set them up, maybe people like you, Sian. Here's how they work. I will use the example of North Carolina in the 1770s, when it was a British Colony as Wales is. 1. Assemblies popped up all over the State. Often they were called Committees for Public Safety, that being the trendy term at the time, as in the French Revolution (when they turned nasty). But they were a mixture of private and public assemblies. 2. Then it get to the point that the issues (Indy, Brexit) get on the agendas of the more official bodies. Happening now in Wales as Councils get hold of Indy. Good, keep it rolling. 3. Yes, it eventually reaches the State (Welsh) Assembly. This is when it gets hard. You hit specific problems - the rules of the Legal State Body are limited by being London-down. So you probably need defiance. The Assembly might threaten to break the rules, or actually do it in a stand-off. This takes guts obviously, not common in Wales unless you are Alun Wyn Jones. You might get a scene like the door being slammed in the face of Black Rod. Defiance, anyway. - you need to call a Constitutional Convention for Wales to hold the votes and write the Constitution for Wales. Can the Assembly pass a valid law to do this? Maybe, maybe not. But you call one anyway. Should its members be elected? Probably, but you need a good number of disrupters not just the old guard. - you probably need more than one Convention. N.Carolina had 2, both commemorated in the State Flag. Most colonies needed a couple of goes. Germany needed 2 after WW2. Note - North Carolina boasts (not quite accurately) that they got Indy before the US did, by a couple of months. A good story. But the point of it is that Wales can hold its Assemblies/Convention and write its own Constitution. The UK can hold one also - but Wales does not need to wait. Should not wait. any more than N.Carolina did. PS - violence. It has often been said that the only thing that London really understands is force. Was true in N.Carolina, which made Cornwallis surrender at Yorktown after a guerrilla war (Film 'The Patriot'). And just look at Irish history. What would happen in 21st Century Wales? I am not advocating violence. But Carson threatened violence over N.Ireland. Farage has threatened to get 17m Brits on to the streets over Brexit. I'm only saying..........

No one has mentioned that such a Citizen's Assembly' well along the road to the introduction here in Scotland. Go for it Wales and always remember that there is an 'Establishment Elite' in Wastemonster that firmly believes that only the 'Tory' English know how to run a country.

Just last month the think tank Policy Exchange published a paper on the group by Counter Terrorism experts which outlined that Extinction Rebellion: 1. rejects both our representative democracy and the liberal free market economy and explicitly seeks to overturn both. 2. originates in the anti-globalisation Occupy Movement, and promotes ‘post-capitalism’ ‘de-growth’. 3. espouses a ‘civil resistance’ strategy of mass protests involving large numbers of the public who are encouraged to break the law, cause serious social and economic disruption and place a burden on police resources. 4. emphasises the importance of achieving economic damage to a city. 5. believes that the economic costs of protest increase exponentially day by day. has groups behind the campaign with social media accounts that reveal notable examples of extremist content including conspiracy theories, including “concerning instances of anti-Semitism” 6. has a leader who has spoken about people dying for its cause, having said “we are not just sending out e-mails and asking for donations. We are going to force the governments to act. And if they don’t, we will bring them down and create a democracy fit for purpose… and yes, some may die in the process”. Say no to these nutters!

I do worry that many in the independence movement are seeking political change over cultural liberation. I personally think the parliamentary system of Britain and Canada to be a great system which we should embrace. It's the Welsh Language we need to revolve revolutionary ideas around, not political agendas and beliefs.

"an independent Wales within Europe" ... I believe this is a forked-tongued way of saying Wales under direct rule of Brussels without London interfering. "Extinction Rebellion" is a movement made up of useful idiots that are unwittingly furthering the a globalist agenda of authoritarianism also known as Agenda 2030. (Thankfully, more and more people are seeing through the dodgy science and propaganda that man's minuscule contribution to planetary CO2 is causing catastrophic global warming.) "Citizens Assemblies" is a far left project designed to push unpopular programmes on people under the mirage of "democracy". These same people hate democratic referendums when the majority rejects their ideological imperatives (e.g. Brexit) . They also demonize free speech because open and unfettered debate would expose their ideas for the sham they are. The Welsh nation can only be truly independent when it is answerable to the people at large, not London, Brussels or pushy special interest groups like "Extinction Rebellion", LGBQT, and Open-border multiculturalists, ... among others.

Wales historically per square mile has some of the richest resource wealth on the Earths surface..yet its people believe the opposite..hilarious