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20mph: The trolls are the other side of the bridge

By Emily Price
Photo Ben Birchall/PA Wire

Dr Cinzia Yates

I recently read the article by Gwern Gwynfil on the rollout of the default 20mph speed
limits on Welsh roads and something about it rankled with me. It took a while for me to put my finger on what it was that was bothering me.

Mr Gwynfil is right after all; Welsh Government did fail to ‘riposte with firm, clear argument, making the case for a law they know is right and which is demonstrably an improvement.’

What made me uncomfortable with his assessment was the real question of ‘why
should they?’

We know there is no way to really beat the trolls. They have no purpose but to sow division and chaos and often have no clear reason for doing so. And 20mph in Wales certainly attracted the trolls.

In a microcosm of the ‘disinformation’ campaigns we see on a global scale, there was a concerted online campaign to foment displeasure at the new legislation.

As Will Hayward discovered, however, much of this campaign was led from the back by Tory politicians in England starting and seeding online campaign groups while implying that they were Welsh people unhappy with a ‘draconian’ ‘blanket’ law brought in by Labour.

This was made all the worse by many of these English politicians living in areas with, and having voted for, reductions in speed limits to 20mph.

Andrew RT Davies hopped onto this particular bandwagon and made ‘blanket 20mph’ something of a catchphrase via his prolific social media output. With the exception of proven mistruths about funding for refugees, he sought to push the issue of this legislation at the expense of all other policy.

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Chant

It became a kind of chant, drilling into the brains of Welsh people. So pervasive was this chant it was taken up by other politicians, despite it being clearly against the Senedd’s code of conduct.

But was this really an attack on reducing speed limits? Was this a citizen led revolt against the war on motorists (and their surprisingly sensitive clutches)? Was this the legitimate cry of environmentalists concerned at the increased emissions of a car taking one minute extra on a ten-minute journey? Of course it wasn’t.

It was a dig at Labour in Wales by the Tories in England and a dig at Wales making its own decisions (even if remarkably similar to those in regions of England) by unionists. It had nothing to do with speed limits.

The use of the term ‘blanket’ was clearly an attempt at undermining the idea of a Welsh Government legislating for Wales as a whole.

I’m not a Labour supporter and they are by no means perfect. The Senedd is not
perfect and neither will it be. But did they fail to fend off the trolls and misinformation or did they, as many of our mother’s advised us to, just ignore the bullies?

20mph default limits are a sensible idea. There is plenty of data to support the change. It was evidently a policy designed with safety in mind. Even if it wasn’t perfect it was hardly the signs of despotic government trying to exploit its people; it was some politicians trying to stop kids getting run over.

So why, in the face of doing something so uncontroversial should the Welsh Government get involved in the games and nonsense of American and increasingly UK politics? Why would a government, making policy decisions for the good of the nation they govern get distracted with petty arguments with trolls when they have a country to run?

Twisted

Trolls are nasty, twisted beings that can cause huge amounts of death, destruction and misery. And boy is global politics full of death, destruction and misery. But Wales doesn’t have to engage with that kind of politics. It doesn’t suit Wales.

Many people were drawn to Drakeford’s leadership during Covid because he genuinely appeared to be attempting to do what was best for everyone, while Johnson and Trump were evidently doing what was best for them.

(I’m aware this is controversial. Drakeford’s government did not get everything right when it came to Covid. We know that now. The point is that in an incredibly difficult situation they seemed to do their best).

Gething tried to brazen his way through the donations scandal and subsequent failures to remain entirely honest, and where Johnson and Trump succeeded, Gething failed.

Welsh people and politicians said no to that kind of brazen dishonesty. Where England had rejected the friendly Geography teacher persona of Corbyn (mainly due to a smear campaign), Wales had sat quite comfortably under the generally sensible and honest and respectable Drakeford for many years.

Even his son’s criminal convictions didn’t distract from his unwavering appearance as a gentle guy just doing his best and not playing stupid games at the expense of a nation.

During the recent violence across many English towns, it was noted that Wales did not have any of the same events; that’s not to say that there are no Welsh people with abhorrent views, but they do not feel emboldened enough to go out and act violently on them.

Even the chant of ‘blanket’ is being seriously challenged by the Senedd’s Standard’s Commissioner in the case of shadow transport minister Natasha Asghar, rather than being allowed to slide as ‘just a tweet’ despite her claims of free speech.

Wales is not yet a nasty, twisted being. It still has a sense of trying to be sensible, act for the many, where words matter and trying to stick to the job at hand. Wales has no truck with a gamified politics reminiscent of a schoolyard argument about whos Dad could beat up who.

Trolls out

So, did Welsh Government fail to tackle the disinformation about the 20mph
legislation? Or did they take the grown-up position, safe in the knowledge it was the right thing to do, and just ignore the trolls?

Did they starve the trolls of the oxygen they so desperately want and save that oxygen for themselves to do more of what they’re paid to do?

The legislation still stands and accidents are down so the trolls evidently weren’t that successful. It is this attitude that gives me hope for Wales where I may have lost hope elsewhere.

Wales doesn’t have to play the same nonsense games that politics elsewhere has become. We can hold our politicians to higher standards. We can allow them to legislate on the basis of hard data and safety and ignore the inevitable pub bores with keyboards.

It will be hard as things stand with Labour/Tories tethered to their London HQs. Ultimately, I feel this is a good argument for Independence, Wales can be free to have a better politics. It can keep striving to do the best for its people and avoid vapid tribalism.

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24 comments

Alwyn

I’ve been saying the same thing for the past year, yet every time Dobbin RTDavies opens his big mouth and chants ‘blanket! Anyone who goes around Gabalfa Roundabout these days sees the sense of 20 mph. Universally ignored as it was, nowadays you don’t have to take your life in your hands. Yes there are still areas where 30 needs to be restored. - Llanrumney to St Mellons being a case in point - but overall, 20 mph has proved its effectiveness

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Mark

Thank you for writing and publishing this article. A refreshing read.

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John

Cymaint o ddoethineb yn cael ei fynegi yma.

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John Ellis

When news of the on-line campaign against the 20 mph limit first broke, I tried to get some clarification as to what, if any, criteria were being applied by campaign sponsors in accepting signatories. I'm not personally totally hard-line on the issue of confining acceptance strictly to people who live inside Wales's boundaries, because if you live, say, in parts of Chester, or in Oswestry or in Coleford or in Lydney you may well find yourself travelling into Wales on a nearly daily basis. So it affects you, and your view is surely legitimate. Same's similarly true of people living in England who own holiday homes in Wales because they too have a legitimate interest - whether you approve of ail gartrefi or not, they exist and are legally permissible! But why should an inhabitant of Morpeth, Grimsby or Ramsgate with no Welsh connection whatsoever be accorded a legitimate opinion? The Tory activist councillor from Sunderland suggests that there's an issue here!

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Fi yn unig

I agree. This had nothing to do with a speed limit and everything to do with ‘our colony shall not make its’ own decisions’. The widespread, unhinged, insane screaming of the ‘blanket’ bully trolls demonstrates that and anyone who needs further confirmation should consider why the default 30mph limit still in place in England and Scotland isn’t being referred to as blanket 30. Even high profile presenters on BBC and LBC were peddling the blanket lie, so swept up were they by the feverish propaganda. Unprofessional or what? Beyond that, we had a First Minister who said he would do 5 years and he did 5 years whilst in Westmonster, there were two Prime Ministers who struggled to cling on (yes, cling ons) for 5 minutes due to their moral bankruptcy so yes, we have an idea how to run our country whereas they (Tories) don’t and are not interested in doing so. Annibyniaeth am Gymru!

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Cablestreet

Perhaps it was written with you in mind.

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Adrian

Read a lot of Noel Coward do you?

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Cablestreet

Que? Do you write for the Beano?

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Cablestreet

Que?

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Adrian

Maybe you could get a grown-up to help you shape an argument.

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Les Cargot

Have you perused my up ticks to your down ticks? I rest my case.

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Cablestreet

Stop using my name! But you’re quite right about the ticks though.

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CapM

"empty main roads at 3am one has to crawl through at 20mph. " Why would one be in hurry at 3am?

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Les Cargot

Perhaps the law is chasing you cos you’re over the limit in more ways than one?

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Nicola

Completely agree Neil. As Orwell once put it, “There was truth and there was untruth, and if you clung to the truth even against the whole world, you were not mad”. We may be in the minority in this comments section but we are entitled to our opinion and we should not be castigated for it. In my rural village (where speeding is rife) we no longer have a community Speedwatch which was a necessary evil. This is because all of the volunteers resigned in protest, since they didn’t want to be complicit in people receiving letters for driving at 26 mph. Good on them!

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Jeff

Perhaps if there was a 20 in Llanblethian then Wallis would not have hit a pole hard enough to bring it down. That was silly o clock am.

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Ziggy

Anybody who opposes the 20mph default limit is a troll?- to remind you, practically half a million people signed the Welsh Government website petition against it's introduction, 98% of the signatories being resident in Wales. Where I live in Torfaen only a very small percentage of drivers on the main roads where it has been indiscriminately applied comply with the limit- I know this because I live on such a road. There are some roads that should be limited to 20mph, but that option was available before the default was introduced.

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Padi Phillips

There are over 2.3 million people registered to vote in Cymru. Less than half a million signed their support to petition that in its semi-literacy almost contradicts itself in places. In reality then, a petition that garners the support of barely a fifth of the electorate in Cymru in terms of numbers should trounce a silent majority who presumably are supportive of the default 20mph limit or who are insufficiently bothered by it to take any action to voice their feelings against it?

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Ziggy

And only 46.6% of the electorate bothered to vote in the last Senedd election..... .trying to play down the fact that 470,000 people signed the petition to rescind the default 20mph before it closed and arguing that a silent majority support the 20mph is slightly ambitious. I have lots of acquaintances who didn't sign the petition, who I know to be against the 20mph default. .

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Padi Phillips

The 'motorists are a cash cow' is scraping the bottom of the barrel of reasons to oppose speed restrictions. In cases where there are fines imposed as the result of evidence generated by cameras of other devices, then surely it's down to the individual triggering the device by their transgressive behaviour? In which case, simply don't transgress and the state makes no money that way.

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Paul

Whenever the Welsh Government make changes from the British way of doing things. Wales is accused of "being different for the sake of being different". Ignoring the point of devolution was to allow Wales to make changes so that things work for it. It is also an accusation that is never levied at England. For example when England scrapped the letter based GCSE grades making it different for the rest of the UK. No one accused it of just being awkward.

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Cyrano Jones

In isolation, the fuss over 20mph does seem excessive; it's a dratted nuisance, imposed far too rigidly, but no more than that. But it needs to be seen in context. The law came soon after the theatrical cancellation of all major road projects; add the simplistic "cars bad" rhetoric that certain Labour ministers liked to indulge in, and it's hardly surprising that many saw an anti-driver animus behind it. There was definitely a sense of "if we let them get away with this, heaven knows what they'll do next". This wasn't helped when, days after the law came into force, Lee Waters gave an interview to the BBC where the gist of his remarks was, "OK, 20 is done, now let's start reducing lots of other limits too." It fed into a quite rational perception that the Welsh government has stopped listening to anyone outside a closed circle of pseudo-experts (lobbyists and consultants) who are paid to tell it what it wants to hear, and this is leading to bad policy in many areas. But if you'd rather believe that 70% of the population of Wales are English Tory trolls, go right ahead.

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Garycymru

The trolls are not let off free on social media. In actual fact they're actively hunted by certain groups online as those who are trying to be edgy and relevant are seen as extremely easy and lucrative targets for data stealing. Using a mixture of OSINT and details they leave on their social media it's extremely easy to make ÂŁ70 from each troll.

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Mr J

"Wales doesn’t have to play the same nonsense games that politics elsewhere has become." So why engage in such nonsense games by labelling anyone who disagrees with your opinion a "troll"?

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